Michael Vick: Just Another Nigger
May 19, 2009 by dwil
It’s official. Michael Vick is officially just another nigger. While Brett Favre cannot throw more than 10 passes without his arm feeling like it’s going to fall off, but while the Minnesota Viking continue to express interest in the to be 40-year old (in October) quarterback, Vick is receiving no interest at the same position.
The Vikings have four QBs on their roster, yet team owner Ziggy Wilf and head coach Brad Childress are willing to wait for the status of Favre’s shoulder to be made concrete before moving onto the four men presently battling for a job with the team. Meantime, according to an ESPN report this morning by Fort Worth Star-Telegram reporter Charean Williams, one team, primarily, has expressed an interest in Vick, should he be reinstated into the NFL by commissioner Roger Goodell.
The team? The Oakland Raiders, of course. The position? Running back or cornerback.
Why those two positions? Williams says the reason is because Vick was an inaccurate passer when he was in the league and now, without practice, must be even more scattershot. Can you imagine the man who walked into Lambeau Field on a blustery winter day and mesmerized the Green Bay Packers and their faithful, and out-dueled Favre in a 2002 playoff game, winning easily 27-7 lined up behind the quarterback or out on an island against wideouts? The same player who guided his team the the NFC Championship game in 2004?
You know, Steve Young was the quintessential running quarterback when he came out of Brigham Young University. Sure Young put up gaudy passing yard numbers for the pass-happy Cougars but Young was just as willing to break the pocket and rely on his athletic ability to gain yardage as he was his his arm. After Brigham Young, Young joined the United States Football League. After the league folded Young was drafted by the lowly Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He spent two years with the Bucs running for his life, amassing a 3-16 record. In those two years Young completed 52.2% of his passes his first season – 1-4 record – with the Bucs and 53.7% the second year leading his team to a 2-14 record.
Young was then snapped up by ———- Bill Walsh and the San Francisco 49ers. Young was immediately pegged to be groomed to replace the legendary Joe Montana.
There were questions about Young’s accuracy -he completed 52.8% of his passes with the Bucs – but no team thought of turning him into a running back. Though he was admittedly traumatized by his experience in Tampa no NFL head coach ever considered having young line up at defensive back. Though he appeared woefully out of place as an NFL QB Bill Walsh saw Young as the eventual replacement for perhaps the best quarterback ever to play the game.
Michael Vick? In six seasons with the Atlanta Falcons he completed 53.8% of his passes. Tight end Alge Crumpler was his best receiver over those years.
One season Brian Finneran was the Falcons leading receiver.
That’s right, Brian Finneran.
Can you imagine Vick surrounded by Jerry Rice, Brent Jones, John Taylor, and Rickey Watters? Bill Walsh imagined Young surrounded by that talent. But somehow Atlanta management could never find explosive wideouts with good hands for Vick. For some reason they wanted to rely on an undersized Warrick Dunn to run the ball for Vick. Or for Vick to run.
And for six years Vick was alternately looking downfield in vain for a real wideout, settling for short passes to his tight end ————- and running for his life after exhausting all his options downfield.
Has any potential suitor head coach examined every snap Vick has taken to see what he saw downfield?
Doesn’t seem like it. Have any of those coaches realistically assessed the Falcons’ talent at wideout? At running back, though Dunn tried vainly to play bigger than his NFL-tiny frame?
No.
But Vick is allegedly slated to play running back or defensive back should he return to the NFL. Plus, he must show the “proper remorse” to commissioner Roger Goodell, whatever the hell that is – and however Goodell deems he can prove Vick’s act of contrition one way or another
There’s no such thing as league-wide racism in the NFL ——- right?
And Michael Vick isn’t just another disposable nigger.
(There. I broke my silence.)
Yeah, this is why I have given up on the NFL.
Can’t deal with it anymore.
While I think Vick is a dreadful passer, there has to be a team willing to give him a shot at QB. I think the consensus around the country is, he deserved to be punished…but wow…that was maybe a little overboard.
At some point, some team is going to realize that Vick is worth the gamble.
ROFLMABAO!!!-Mike Vick just doesn’t pass the paper-bag test, folks!
I knew someone would break open this faux-soap opera called the NFL. They’re still in awe of the mystical quaterback position and must maintain the status-quo of the gritty, but soft team leader. You know ya’ll love the Brett Farve-I’m trying to leave but they keep pulling me back-storyline…LMAO!
The Raiders still haven’t utilized JaMarcus, who reminds me of a Daunte Culpepper/Vince Young type of QB, so what in the heck will they do with MV? Cornerback?! In a pipe dream, they’d do away with tradition and spread that field the heck out w/ running, passing, laterals, etc. Then, I could see a MV at the RB* position with some freedom to choose run, pass, or option
…and this faux-y concern over some dogfighting is straight out of the parking lot. Reminds me of the University of South Carolina Gamecocks-a mascot built on “traditions” of an animal blood sport. These folks are a trip!
“After Brigham Young, Young joined the World Football League”
You mean USFL.
The fact is, there are so many mediocre QBs in the NFL who are less accurate than Vick (whom also couldn’t improvise like him when everything breaks down) and still have no competition this coming season. Buffalo could use Vick throwing to TO in the Lake Erie wind.
” If I was the commissioner, I’d be a lot tougher on these guys…I don’t think he should get in. It all depends on who wants him back and how much strength they have in the league.”
That was Paul Hornung, the same Hornung who, along with Alex Karras, was suspended by the NFL for gambling.
Vick played the ABSOLUTE WORST position on the football field (next to coach) to do what he was doing off the field that got him jammed up in the first place.
Part of the reason that blacks weren’t allowed to play QB or be a coach was because of the b.s. assumption that whites were more intelligent, trustworthy and responsible.
How is Vick doing financially? Can he survive without playing football anymore? Should he bother subjecting himself and his kids to the ridicule he’s going to have to deal with now should an NFL team want to pick him up?
D-
You were on to something awhile back when you were discussing the training that goes into making an NFL QB. Vick can clearly play the position. There isn’t any question. It just looks different. He was, as you noted, the first man to ever lead his team to a ‘W’ in Lambeau in the playoffs.
For all the heat that the Falcons are taking, I think they did make some effort to put talent on the field next to MV7 — but the team was philosophically at odds with itself.
The Falcons signing of Warrick Dunn was actually a good move — in my book. It was coupled with the use of TJ Duckett. The tandem (plus Vick’s skills) were supposed to give the Falcons the type of running game that would allow them to keep an underweight defense off the field. The Falcons were among the top teams in rushing for years.
As for the passing game, Finneran wasn’t supposed to be the lead dog who pulled the sled. He was supposed to be a possession receiver who gave MV7 an outlet when Algernon was doubled or tripled. He did that effectively. The problem for the Falcons was that those wide outs on whom they gambled didn’t pan out while Vick was on the team. Vick is “supposed” to be playing with Roddy White. White is excellent but he, by his own admission, had some growing up to do. He’s done it. Ryan is the beneficiary but White was supposed to support Vick’s play — not Ryan’s.
Peerless Price is the name that keeps coming up. I don’t know why he didn’t pan out, but ATL gambled big on him. Price went to nearby UT and performed well enough in Buffalo.
Enter Michael Jenkins. See above.
The Falcons expended considerable resources on the acquisition of WR talent in adding Price, Jenkins and White. They missed on 2 of those. When teams don’t have an elite wide receiver — and they have a mediocre defense, they don’t usually win many big games. Atlanta’s success was largely attributable to Vick. When the defense is ranked somewhere between 19th and LAST every year (except for 1), you know the offense is dragging the team along for the ride. And you know when a team runs as well as ATL did — and the defense STILL SUCKS — that statistics can only show a piece of how poorly they played.
I agree that Vick didn’t have good receivers — but he was surrounded by guys who were at least “supposed’ to be good. The guys who flopped in ATL were “busts” because people actually had high expectations.
His troubles, however, are the logical by-product of being in the wrong brain at the wrong time. Sometimes you’ve got to know when to Do You. If he has his mind right — and his self love right — he’ll do just fine.
D –
What’s your take on the psychology behind the Favre infatuation? It doesn’t seem to be merely about “race” to me. Thoughts?
The NFL and MSM will put up with a 40-year-old, past-his-prime QB with diva tendencies, but want to give Vick a hard time? Please. Favre is from Kiln, Miss. Dogfighting is popular in the South. Think Favre’s ever been to a dogfighting match in his life? But they won’t be satisfied until Vick’s “humbled” enough (by the way, that’s how they love black athletes unless you’re arrogant AND funny-see Charles Barkley). Sorry to say this, but I called this months ago. They’ll make him jump through hoops like a show pony before they let him back in. And WHY should he play another position once he’s back in? Like 2 Live Stew said in ESPN First Take, no way they’d ask Manning or Palmer to come back as a tight end or wide receiver in a similar situation.
Temple,
White people love Favre for the same reason they loved Bush: he’s a white, countrified, good-ol’-boy who looks like someone you’d want to have a beer with. We found out what Bush was really about after a few years. Same with Favre. Turns out he’s as selfish and diva-like as T.O. ever was, but doesn’t get nearly the amount of bad press. Interesting.
T3-
Brett Favre is exactly what M, Fudge said he is….
I give Favre much, much credit for his consecutive game streak, even his “love to play the game” attitude and his gunslinging. Hell, I’ll even go so far as to say he’s an old school QB’s QB.
But,
He obviously has had his share of foibles and fuck ups along the way. That he has not been crucified for them is because race matters – and because Favre has become an archetypal figure; an NFL icon that owners, GMs, and coaches pray to each night and wish for another one to burst forth from the college ranks and fall into their laps.
mcvaldez-
Thanks for he catch.
Thank thank thank Dwil…………for saying what folks are scared to say.
Man this Vick issue is the reason I found your site in the first place.
Matthew I couldn’t have said it better myself….that some of the reasons why loved Farve, Bush and Ruth.
Like Bigman I am done with the league….the only thing I follow are the black QBs.
Now get this you see the MSM points out his completion %s yet never say he can’t be a QB because of his arm strength, winning percentage, 20 TDs he threw for before he was suspended or taking a crappy ATL team to the game before the superbowl.
Nope.
And Myron I don’t give a crap about Vick’s completion percentages…..yet MFing super duper bustas like JT sullivan, Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bruce Gradkowski and Damon Huard are in the league.
These dudes Fing suck no one has called for these SOBs to play punter or kicker………..since they suck as QBs.
As I said before the MSM and the NFL will work together to get this dude blackballed. And I will continue to say that until I see other wise.
And CDF yeap Vick can’t pass that paper bag test. The thing is non of these brothas at QB can………..they are one bad half from getting benched.
I was talking to a college buddy of mine today and told him that Culpepper and Russel probably have more job security then any black QBs in the league.
Shoot TJ is one bad half in the preseason from getting benched. Mcnabb is what 2 games from getting benched, sh%t David Garrad’s team drafted OL instead of WRs. So he won’t last pass week 4 and Del Rio will throw him under the bus to save his job. And Campbell is one game from getting traded.
Vick just gave these good ole boy bigots a reason to try and lighten up the position……….which they had every intent anyway. Vick just sped up the process.
Its a total joke……..kats like Brett Bromar and Stephen McGee (who did nothing in college get drafted as QBs (and drafted pretty high). Yet a player as accomplished as Pat White might have never gotten a chance to play QB if Parcells didn’t draft him.
Man F the NFL with a dirty d#$%.
Vick would have been better off practicing playing basketball in jail. He might have had a better shot getting a gig in europe (maybe even playing more) then getting a gig in the NFL.
Also another reason the league and teams want him to come back is because they want that fool to break the all time start streak.
Folks need to squash this “for the love of the game” talking point with regards to Farve. If it was just about the love of the game he wouldn’t be so dead set on only the Vikings.
Origin, I really think ESPN has devoted half their staff to covering Vick…I really do. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this. Mike Tyson didn’t get this type of coverage coming out of prison. This is absolutely a sad sign of the times. ESPN is now on the level with TMZ……actually, I think its below TMZ…at least Perez Hilton knows he’s a joke.
Does anyone in America like Favre at this point? This all seems to be driven by Peter King’s deep bromance with him?
Outside of Green Bay, I think Favre is one of the least popular players in football right now.
I have a question: how much is enough? How many times can the man fall on his sword? How else can he pay? His contract was voided, his “friends” sung on him like they were on “American Idol”. I mean, what’s left? I’m sure that in two years, he’s been able to re-evaluate some things. So let him play. What more does he need to do? No way Favre would have to pay like Vick has for a similar offense.
True Matthew…. And Brett Fav-ruh needs to go away. See if GB will still pay him the 20 mil or something close and deal with the hope that ha can still walk in 10 years.
I was assuming “race” as a given. I guess I was thinking that there was some other supplemental factor that further explained the fascination. I am sure there are tons of “white” folk in Green Bay who have contempt for Favre — as so many have said — but are simply ready to craft a new narrative that suits their psychological needs.
In some circles, a guy like Favre has to go from being “prototypical” to “exceptional.”
The league is really resisting the emergence of Black QBs. Obviously, I wouldn’t argue that Mike Vick is the best demonstration of that point. I’d certainly argue that his cousin Aaron Brooks has a stronger case. After all of this, it is truly ironic that Favre could wind up in Minnesota playing for Brad Childress — in a city where Randall Cunningham and Daunte Culpepper re-wrote the record books; in a city where Tarvaris Jackson waits in the wings; and where Childress is probably still thinking about a McNabb-esque presence behind a semi-elite offensive line.
The Vikings won’t go far with Favre. He hasn’t won more than 1 playoff game in a season in a decade. He’s done. He’s been done. Invariably, he’ll revert to the back foot and become the walking INT that he’s been from jump. I can understand why he’s an icon. As long as he puts fannies in the seats and generates clicks, he’ll have a place to land — and as long as the league resists losing their franchise to a Black face, he’ll be deemed “critical personnel.”
Temple says
” can understand why he’s an icon. As long as he puts fannies in the seats and generates clicks, he’ll have a place to land — and as long as the league resists losing their franchise to a Black face, he’ll be deemed “critical personnel.”
There you have it brotha.
I couldn’t have said it better.
ESPN and the mainstream sports media wants to break Michael Vick spirit in terms of being a black QB and all future African-American QBs (dual threat or dropback) and make them think twice into believing they have a chance to be a starting QB in the NFL.
If you have a son who plays QB in the youth leagues, high school, it affects them as well. If your children see fewer black QBs playing that position on the NFL level, they may believe that playing RB or another position besides QB will be best for them.
It’s 2009, but there is still that vibe among mainly white mainstream sports journalists that black QBs aren’t smart enough to succeed in the NFL and the situation in Minnesota with Tarvaris is a prime example. In Tampa with Josh Freeman, he is battling the press and dealing with the criticism that he isn’t smart enough to succeed. Those questions weren’t directed toward Matt Leinart, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Matt Ryan or Mark Sanchez or even Joe Flacco.
I hope Vick succeeds in his comeback, because that means future NFL black QB prospects such as Baylor’s Robert Griffin and Ohio State’s Terell Owens have a stronger chance of succeeding and NFL evaluators would be forced to consider them as viable, legitimate prospects who can succeed.
It would be great to see Vick, McNabb, Garrard, Russell, Leftwich, Vince, Tarvaris secure playoff spots in 2009 and have Carson Plamer, Favre, Warner and other golden boys sit at home…and have the old school sports journalists try to explain away why Favre and others are at home again during the playoffs…
Let the high tech lynching begin! Goodell doesn’t want to see contrition he wants groveling! He is probably the most popular white man in America because he gives the white man what he wants, he cracks the whip on young and rich African-American men. I am glad there are still folks like the Stews and DWIL that are willing to stand on a soapbox and speak the truth.
As for Michael Vick the quarterback, he was ALL the Falcons had a few years ago. Roddy White and Michael Jenkins couldn’t catch a cold! They had a sorry coaching staff and an even sorrier defense. I got into a debate the other day with a guy on MARTA about Vick and Ryan. The guy said Ryan is better than Vick, (This is very typical in Atlanta where we have the world’s best fans when it comes to jumping on a band-wagon.) I told him Ryan is pretty good but get back to me when he wins a playoff game, better yet get back to me when he takes the team to the Super Bowl. I mean Vick got the Falcons within one game of the Super Bowl.
White men have a grip on the quarterback position and they aren’t letting it go easily. Notice that guys like Joe Flacco has “it” according to Tom Jackson and Ron Jaworski, they can’t tell you what “it” is but Flacco has it. Shit, I can tell you what it is, A GREAT DAMN DEFENSE!!!! Matt Ryan has “it”, its called 2 Pro-Bowlers, Michael Turner and Roddy White! Now you have to be careful when you are listening for the word “it” because “it” is interchangeable with words like intangibles, leader and winner. These are all words that are used to describe white quarterbacks that have completion percentages in the low 50′s. These words allow MSM, coaches and various front office types to justify having a buster at quarterback! WTF does Tyler Thigpen have???? WTF does the quarterback of the 49′ers have? How about Matt Schaub??? Jake Delhomme???? My bad, he has Steve Smith! Let’s keep it real, when a quarterback of color has any intangible, be it speed, strength, creativity, etc., it is held against him. What did they say about Vick’s speed, “he has to learn to stay in the pocket”. How about Jamarcus’ arm strength, “you don’t see to many quarterbacks throwing 80 yard spirals on one knee.” Now when you do try to do it “their” way, staying in the pocket, trying to manage the game, you get the Tavaris Jackson critique, “he has to get rid of the ball, he is holding it too long, he has to take some shots down the field”. A brother at quarterback in todays NFL and NCAA don’t stand a chance.
My brothers I wish Michael Vick the best! Personally, I hope he tells the NFL, PETA, the Humane Society and the rest of those mofo’s that get up on their soap boxes to kiss his ass! Now you watch, I guaran-damn-tee you that the hypocrisy of the media and the NFL is going to be on display soon! One of the NFL’s GWH’s (Great White Hope) is going to get into a big mess and MSM’s bigotry, specifically ESPN’s, will be exposed for all to see.
Lastly, please continue to keep us informed about Mike because after I watched the way the media killed this brother I stopped watching ESPN, except for the occassional game with the volume turned all the way down. Keep watching so I don’t have to!!
ESPN did have a Michael Vick special, and only Herm Edwards defended him as being a viable starting QB… Trent Dilfer along with Mark Schelerth were banging the drum that Vick is not likely to be a starting QB ever again or that he should play another position. When Dilfer said those comments, Herm looked at him like he was crazy… Herm defended Vick’s on-field performance saying that he won games, won multiple playoff games and took his team to the NFC Championship game…and oh yes Vick has been to the Pro Bowl three times.
Dilfer is clearly a hater, but there is a strong undercurrent of contempt for the dual threat QB and when ‘Mactown’ said …” white men have a grip on the quarterback position and they aren’t letting it go easily…” there is a lot of truth to that.
On local Atlanta radio (WQXI-790 AM), a radio host said Vick decimated the Falcons franchise. To me the word decimate gives a very misleading, inaccurate depiction.
Vick’s situation was embarrassing and sad, but it didn’t decimate the Falcons’ franchise. The Detroit Lions is a decimated organization. The Los Angeles Clippers is a decimated franchise.
Vick did more to help the Falcons than hurt the franchise. Vick made the Falcons relevant and got them back on national television. From the end of 2001 to 2006, the Georgia Dome was sold out. Five consecutive years of sellouts WITH WAITING LISTS! Blank made profits throughout the Vick years, and even when Vick was convicted in 2007 and didn’t play, the Georgia Dome sold out in 2007 (just prior to the Vick indictment), but Blank didn’t give refunds! The Georgia Dome was half-full, but the tickets were sold. A lot of black fans were mad and didn’t come because of the way Arthur Blank/Rich McKay handled the situation– and then tried to steal Vick’s earned bonus money back. And previously during the Miami/TSA marijuana incident in which Vick was cleared of any wrongdoing, Rich McKay went public before the facts came out and said they were ready to suspend Vick for four games in 2007. So the Falcons were already trying to find ways to push Vick out the door when Jim Mora was fired and former coach Bobby Petrino was hired.
Strong columns and great comments by all. About 25 teams are going to whiff on Vick because while its not inconceivable he’ll have to get the rust off he will be an elite QB in the NFL again because the man has too much talent not to reach that level again and if need be remake himself. No QB in the NFL is perfect because all lack something but the good ones maximize the skills, abilities, and intangibles that they have. That’s the thing that always sunk Black QB’s since the great Randall’s heyday in Philly in that all and I do mean all of them who had speed tried too hard to fit into the dropback mold just so they can appease some big nebulous THEY made up of fans, coaches, and sports media. Competition at that level is supposed to be about doing what it takes to win but reaching that goal gets harder when one goes into battle without their best weaponry.
This self-imposed penance is why you’ll see Shawn King screaming on the Bucs’ sideline during a game about how he’s trying to play the game the ‘right way’ whatever that is. You’ll see Vince Young walk around Titans training camp with a t-shirt proclaiming himself a QB. You’ll see a future HOF in Donovan F. McNabb eschew running the football in the biggest game of his life.
This penance is what I said self-imposed because whether Black QB’s are good soldiers and follow the coaching staff’s gameplan to the letter or not they will still be disrespected by the shadow of the quick hook and the criticism that QB is not their natural position. McNabb found out in Baltimore during halftime of the Eagles-Ravens game. Steve McNair found out in Nashville when management locked him out of the complex when the team had no more use for him. Vince Young and Jason Campbell found out how truly expendable and tenuous their positions were a little over a year after saying there’s no difference in how a QB’s race determines how he’s treated. Paul Mooney would call these nigger wake up calls.
Again Vick will get his chance to shine as an NFL QB because his skills are too intriguing for a desperate coaching staff not to use them but hopefully he’ll remember the past two and a half years and realize he’s still just another nigger to The Shield and use the league just as much as they will use him.
Randall Cunningham retired in 1995 from the Eagles ….he didn’t play at all in 1996……..he came back in 1997 with the Vikings and got them to the playoffs, In 1998 he was a league MVP and the Vikings went 15-1………..So all of these stupid analysts can KICK ROCKS with that bullshyt about whether or not a WORLD CLASS ATHLETE can come back after missing 2 seasons. It never fails to amaze me the utter garbage I hear from these “cut from the kickball team in 4th grade” experts .
There are 32 teams in the NFL…..each one has NO less than 3 Quarterbacks….what METH would a person have to be smoking in order to think Mike Vick isn’t a better option than 80 of that 96?? And I’m being mighty stingy – because its more like 90!!
The man wasn’t bed ridden for 2 years….he wasn’t overcoming cancer for the last 2 years….why are these numbnuts pulling this bullshyt from outta thin air that somehow he won’t be in shape? That he can’t play the position he has played since he picked up a football? You mean to tell me that if Vick had been overcoming an injury and out for 2 seasons that he would have to come back and change positions? No…. GTFOH with that mess. They can lie to themselves but they won’t lie to me. They just don’t want him to be a QB again and are too punkish to cop to it. If Vick announced he would never play QB again, these same SOB’s would be demanding Goodell reinstate him tomorrow…then he’d be OK. These punk azz “experts” make me sick.
Two words: TE and BOW
He is the embodiment of a “stereotypical” black QB wrapped up in a better package than Favre could ever hope to be. He will be the changing point. Teams will fall all over themselves to make all the adjustments in game plan, add all the correct complimentary personnel, and provide all the patient and supportive coaching that we have been wishing our young, black qb’s could have had. And I am no fan of his accuracy, arm strength, decision making or intangibles (unless being surrounded by studs and a hell of a game plan is an intangible
What I find amazing, is that athleticism in a white QB has always, ALWAYS, been a major asset, and relying on that athleticism has enhanced how the qb has been viewed (Tarkenton, Staubach, Elway, Shuler, Steve Young, No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith, etc.) but with black QBs, it’s always been seen as a hindrance to their development into a “real” QB. Once Tim is drafted (way too highly) we will see that you can win in the NFL with a QB who brings elite athleticism to the position… provided he has the skin tone that the luxury box holders can rally around.
The conclusion that I have humbly come to is this: QB1 is just about always the face of the franchise and that face has to be a guy those luxury box holders want to bring home to their daughter. MV problem going forward is that few will want him to be the face of their franchise, and they know that he is too good not to pass the other QBs on their depth chart.
“Two words: TE and BOW”-Marc-ly
Excellent point! Again, that’s the mold cats like Vince Carter and Daunte Culpepper already filled, yet they ain’t coming to dinner anytime soon.
Michael Vick, for all the much maligned completion percentage, somehow still managed to throw more TDs than INTs for most of his seasons, which is something many ‘winning’ QBs failed to do. Also, completion percentage in and of itself is not a particularly interesting stat, as players like David Carr managed gaudy completion percentages but failed to be effective.
Why the “of course” with the Raida’s? I say Vick would look good in the silver and black. And they could say that they are interested in him as a water boy but you and I both know he’d be taking snaps by week 6.
You cats are holding it down in these comments. I really have nothing to add just that this whole issue gets me really angry. I know I should calm down, but I can honestly barely talk about this. And then the fact that he has to show “remorse”? What?!?
A friend told me that Colin Cowherd was on the radio explaining why playing in the NFL is not a “privilege” that Vick lost. I think he said because he is uniquely talented the NFL team that had him was lucky he was there instead of Vick only being lucky to play in the NFL. They wanted him there because of what he could do and they paid him lots of money to do it. Too many times ESPN makes it sounds like these cats were simply lucky to get where they are. Not the case. As many have pointed out here even without watching the games to really know his impact he even has pretty good stats and success in the playoffs.
This is a case of ESPN and their drones telling us not to believe our lying eyes when it comes to the matter of Vicks ability as a qb. I know the Green Bay faithful know how good he is.
“Trent Dilfer along with Mark Schelerth were banging the drum that Vick is not likely to be a starting QB ever again or that he should play another position.”
Huh? What the…?! Are you SERIOUS??? Trent Dilfer had something to say? How can he possibly give his two cents when it was widely known that the Ravens won their defense IN SPITE OF him?? Better yet, let me know how many defensive coordinators lost any sleep wondering how to stop him in his prime (don’t worry, I’ll wait).
“What I find amazing, is that athleticism in a white QB has always, ALWAYS, been a major asset, and relying on that athleticism has enhanced how the qb has been viewed (Tarkenton, Staubach, Elway, Shuler, Steve Young, No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith, etc.) but with black QBs, it’s always been seen as a hindrance to their development into a “real” QB.”
Good point, Marc.