Notes: Matt Jones Returns to the Field
August 10, 2008
The Florida Times-Union, newspaper to the Jacksonville Jaguars made no mention of the odd happening on the field during the Jaguars-Atlanta Falcons game. ESPN made no mention of the happening, Additionally, in a feature “Camp Confidential article on ESPN.com, Paul Kuharsky, former Tennessee Titans beat writer for the Tennessean and now ESPN.com writer, never mentioned the name of the man involved in the happening. The NFL Network showed a highlight of the happening.
“The happening” was a 22-yard pass from David Garrard to Matt Jones that led to the Jaguars’ first touchdown of their preseason game against the Falcons. Normally the discussion around a play like that would concern a veteran quarterback in his second season as full-time starter and banal banter using the overused term, “sophomore slump.” Secondarily, there would be talk of the new receivers in the Jags camp and how all the receivers from 2007-08 must watch their backs.
But this play should have spotlighted something entirely different - and would have if the receiver was black.
Matty J. was back. He started the game. Jones played his prescribed starter number of plays and sat down for the remainder of the game.
No biggy, huh?
But this is an NFL player who was busted in an SUV with six grams of coke. This is a first round pick who was busted chopping lines with a credit card while his boys eagerly awaited the result of his “largesse.” This is the guy who was given a HUGE break by a prosecutor by reducing his charge from distribution to possession despite the fact that possessing more than one gram of cocaine carries with it an automatic charge of distribution. This is a player who let his team down mightily late last season and into the playoffs; basically disappeared - and then during the offseason had the nerve to complain that he wanted the ball more.
There was no uproar. No boos when he came onto the field. No sardonic remarks from the local press. No ESPN coverage detailing Jones’ first action since the arrest. No wondering if Jones needed to bne released. No nothing from the commissioner’s office about the scourge that is drugs.
It sure must be nice to be Matt Jones.
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It’s a combination of being white and the specter of low expectations. Matt Jones has underachieved as a receiver for years but he still has a job as a first round pick — and because the Jacksonville front office can’t do its job and sign two good receivers to make him expendable (Jerry Porter probably helps, but given his past couple years in Oakland, well….)
Everyone expects Jones to suck now. The perception discrepancy between white players with powdered coke is also in play throughout.
To quote Chris Rock: “It’s all right ’cause it’s all white.”
Come on D-Wil, you weren’t really expecting a “Snowman” reference during Young Jeezy’s highlights were you? lol
Nice to be white
S2N
To quote Brother Louis Armstrong
“My only sin is in the skin I’m in. What did I do, to be so black and blue?”
Nobody’s shocked that Matt Jones got a huge mulligan on this, Dwil.
Just tired of having to point it out only to have some racist POS on ESPNConversations say “stop playing the race card” or “my people came from Italy/Germany/Ireland and pulled themselves up, why can’t you do the same” or “Africans sold their own into slavery so it was their fault for making the Europeans buy them”.
Have I missed any other arguments as to why racism in this country doesn’t exist?
Take heart, DWIL. There is at least one SOMM oriented person out there:
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Cheers and jeers for Jones
WR Matt Jones got dose of both cheers and at least one noticeable jeer during the morning session.
First, Jones got the crowd of a few hundred revved up after making a leaping sideline grab between a pair of defenders. But just a few minutes later while the receivers were doing a drill near one of the outside fences, a voice hidden behind one of the fences repeatedly took swipes at Jones, yelling: “Matt Jones is a coke head.”
Jones was arrested July 10 on drug charges.
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Link: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/football/jaguars/orl-jagsbeat2708jul27,0,3987652.story
Phil Deeze
You forgot this one “Stop bringing it up, thats the only reason racism exists. Your a racist for bringing up racism”.
Anyway that White Priviledge is a motha ain’t it.
So Dwil whats the word on suspension is the dude even going to be suspended??
Amazing no matter how few WRs that team has. If Matty white girl/ white lines/ snow man was a brotha that dude would have been cut.
I am SOOOOO glad you noticed Dwil, I was with some friends in a sportsbar and when we saw him catch a pass, there was a collective silence before someone said “that can’t be the white horse Matt Jones, can it?”…indeed it was. I guess he and Nick Kaczur will face no repercussions.
Of course its racism. Did you check to see if the media made comments about any of the other nfl players that have been arrested. How many have been arrested since the superbowl ended by the way? Its not race thats the issue except in your case. The real problem is that the nfl drug and steroid culture is accepted by the media because the nfl is partners with nbc, fox, cbs, and espn. You can get away with anything unless you a quarterback and god forbid if your a quarterback dating a pretty woman. Then some how the media is allowed to blame any loss on the girlfriend.
“ESPN White Pass” strikes again! Thanks for catching this D-Wil.
SJ, that article was in the orlando sentinel… and that’s the whole point. Any article on ADAM Jones that ever hit the Tenessean no matter how trivial the issue ALWAYS made it to ESPN who ran hundreds of articles over a year’s span.
Matt Jones is just one of a lengthy, lengthy pass…
MAtt didn’t let his team down in the playoffs. He had a touchdown in the game against Pitt and NE in limited playing time. The guy that let the team down was MOnken who refused to play Matt because of his pride
I should have known you guys would be on top of this. Caught the hightlight of the td and was like “Is that who I think it is?” These guys have a lot of nerve.
Wait…………why is Chris Henry suspended for 4 games? He was suspended after he was arrested, he pled not guilty, one charge was dismissed, the others went to a jury and it was declared a mistrial, the state decided not to charge him again….and then Goodell suspended him for 4 games. So he got suspended because….because……because why again?
Matt Jones’ punishment is being arrested while being white. If you’re black it’s like a badge of honor. It gives you street cred. Whatever the F. that is. In the white community a person is actually ashamed of being arrested. He also actually has to be a decent receiver to keep his jo being white. If you’re black you can be considered a good receiver while being as crappy as Mike Williams and keep a job. being a black receiver is like being a white QB.
O.K. keefer whatever!!
Boy Dwil you call out the MSM on their bigotry and the trolls come out of no where. Its absolutely amazing. Its like you have magical troll powers.
Hey brotha D can you make some trolls appear at my house to mow my lawn???
I swear you and MODI need to go into business or something call it
internet trolls R us.
Keefer
“If you’re black it’s like a badge of honor. It gives you street cred. Whatever the F. that is. In the white community a person is actually ashamed of being arrested.”
Maybe your parents failed to mention that when you speak on something you know little or nothing about, you sound like an idiot. Or maybe you just feel naked without your white sheet. Either way, you have my pity.
hey douchebag you go by the name gyanstah that says pretty much everything. Being proud of being a criminal is exactly what I’m talking about. You’re the idiot for replying under that name.
gangstah is the black equivalent of white trash
So keefer needs to be banned
keefer,
The only thing you know about black people is the Chris Rock riff on jail from his HBO special or you saw black kid with sagging pants and it made you mad.
Don’t get all Toby Keith up in here as if you “know” anything about black people, in general, OK? Stick to what you actually know please. Thanks.
And by the way, my old man was a cop and no crook has EVER used the term “street cred”,OK? That’s a term made up by people like YOU.
“gangstah is the black equivalent of white trash”
So what does that make us? Equals?
The only one here that needs to be checked for their douchebaggery is you, keefer.
[…] Matt Jones, Foot Locker credit card in hand, returns to the Jags. […]
If Jones skates out of this without any consequences from the league, would Chris Henry (or any other player who’s been suspended for similar causes) have grounds for a discrimination lawsuit? I’m amazed at how haphazardly the NFL applies its rules of behavior, but I’m also amazed that I don’t see more people standing up to it.
Is questioning the NFL’s behavior policy akin to questioning the officials in a post-game news conference? Can players, coaches and employees suffer official sanctions (like more suspensions and fines) if they question the discrepancy? Does the collective bargaining agreement forbid this kind of discrimination lawsuit?
Miranda,
Exactly! Perhaps someone needs to tell Goodell that Jones had six grams of COCAINE.
Ok ,ESPN has finally showed up to the party.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3529493
This is why I come to this site everyday. Cause y’all spotlight shit like this. I may have to write about this on my own blog. This is too surreal.
Lance Briggs flipped his sports car and it was national news for days. Matt Jones gets an AP article on the website. Crazy.
You have to be joking. He isnt being mentioned because he’s irrelevant. To even play the race card is pathetic and naive. Difference is he apologized as soon as he got back rather than trying to justify or deny the charges as a whole. I guarantee if Favre stories and start of the NFL preseason didnt happen right now you’d hear about him more.
1) This is his first offense as an NFL player
2) Until the trial is over there will not be a judgement on Goodell part and there shouldnt be. Chris Henry had SEVERAL charges against him.
3) If you honestly think it’s because of his skin color then you need to grow up.
4) If you think he is not being ridiculed for it then you need to grow up. I live in Jacksonville and people are viewing him the same as Chris Henry or any other “criminal” in the NFL.
This is so stupid its insulting to this society
JagsFTW,
6 grams of cocaine is a big deal whether you’re relevant or not, d-bag.
god, I hate white people sometimes.
/white guy
Who said I’m white? Thanks for clarifying you’re a bigot in front of whoever is on here. It’s called intelligence. Here’s a link
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html
Look at that THEN tell me how many people got national press or even mentioned. The fact that people still complain about race in major corporations is ludicrous. Maybe in a small town full of traditionalists that dont have any form of an education system. I’ll have you know most of the journalists, anchors, and police officers in Jax are not white. Does that fact sway your stupid little childish, uninformed opinion or shall I continue? Grow up kid.
Jags says
“Who said I’m white?”
LOL, you come on this board and use white boys are us speak i.e.
Playing the race card.”, victimize yourself in the way that white boys do
“Thanks for clarifying you’re a bigot in front of whoever is on here”
LOL
A. Boney is white. Exactly who is he a bigot towards?
B. You are white, you know it, we all know it and you CAN’T prove otherwise.
C. Any white person who uses the phrase “Playing the race card.” is not only a piece of shit, but my sworn enemy.
Jags,
I’ll give you a little insight homeslice.
I brought up “the race card” a while back to “KevDog” because I figured that bringing that up would basically get me 1 leg up on the argument. There is no race card, it’s a figment of annoying white people’s imagination. It’s a supposed “argument ender” when you bring it up when really it’s just flat out ignorance on display for all to snicker at.
In between that time I brought up “the race card” and now, I have learned a lot of lessons with regard to talking to guys like “KevDog” and I’ve realized that if you come, you better come correct. I didn’t used to like KevDog, but he’s alright with me since I don’t argue with him anymore.
I’m not a bigot, and I may not agree with everything that the contributors of the site say, but I do dislike white people sometimes for the position that they put usually level headed white guys, like me, in.
So Jags, I appreciate your feistiness and your decision to fight for your right and all… but if you are white, I feel sorry for you. You have a long way to go my friend.
oh and Stockar McDougal:
“Charged with felony battery in Fort Lauderdale after fracas at plant nursery over unpaid debt.”
c’mon man… a fracas over plants???? c’mon man… you gotta represent the D better than that man
This cat had six grams of coke. People, that is a nice amount of cocaine. That’s damn near a quarter ounce! Do you people understand how much cocaine is in a quarter ounce?
I’m not talking to those of you who understand, I’m talking to those folks who are making excuses about why this is “no big deal.”
And fuck Roger Goodell for not suspending Jones. Fuck him. He regularly suspends folks without a trial or conviction. It doesn’t matter how many CHARGES someone has. A charge is an accusation, it’s not a conviction. If charges are enough to get some people suspensions, they should be enough to get everybody suspensions.
Matt Jones father said the coke wasn’t his…it was just closest TO him…lol
origin, the reason the “playing the race card” crowd is popping up out of the woodwork is because DeadSpin linked to the article. It comes from a new name that I haven’t seen recently (Sarah Schorno). Firstly, i’m glad that DeadSpin decided to add a woman to their writer cadre, and perhaps she could put a dent in the mysogynistic postings over there. Secondly, this is a good sign as DeadSpin can’t be the face of the blogosphere to so many and always link to the usual suspects. Thirdly, given the nature of DeadSpin’s readership, you’re not going to reach most of ‘em, but might just reach a few of ‘em.
Kev and Boney, thank for clearing that “race card” bullshit up. It has always been a underhanded device to dismiss any diagnosis with of racial bias. Even if one disagrees about racial bias, “the race card” is still very insulting as it tries to destroy the messenger as some sort of hustler.
Jags, the writers and commenters on this board study ESPN reporting with a fine tooth comb and have been doing so for years. For the initial offense — given its level — to receive only one article (and no TV coverage), and for his return to the field to receive NO article is straight unprecedented. Period.
BTW Jags, you are whiter than Casper.
Boney
You’ve come a long way my man. I’m proud of you.
MODI
Whiter than casper! LOL. Sucks to be Jags. He’s getting called out left and right by our esteemed white members. He’s probably over on the ESPN boards right now gettin’ some courage.
ahh yes Kev… I remember when I first broke out the race card…
it was a commentary about Joey Crawford and I trying to defend his daughter or someting like that…
I wish I could use this race card… I have to work hard for all this shit that supposedly this race card just supposedly gives you for no reason
Ownership has its privileges. Isn’t it time for the Goodell’s Gotta Go Campaign? Seems like it.
I don’t think there are any players on the Packers roster this year. According to ESPN’s latest report, the entire team has moved to New York. Jets-Bengals tonite.
You need to get your facts straight. First of all, there is no “distribution” charge in Arkansas. It is called “delivery.” To make a delivery charge, you have to prove that an individual sold a controlled substance (here, cocaine) to another person for something of value. Secondly, possession of more than a gram of cocaine does NOT carry with it “an automatic charge of distribution”, as you said. It creates a rebuttable presumption (that a jury will never hear, no less) of possession with intent to deliver. A prosecutor would still have to prove the intent to deliver. That’s a little difficult when he’s in the car cutting it up to snort.
Say what you will about the commissioner’s decision not to suspend him, but don’t take cheap shots at the prosecutor for charging what he believes that facts will let him prove…especially when you don’t know the law.
Thanks for all the comments on this little “Matty Caine” Note (and even “keefer)….
fatman-
WRONG!
Consider that the penalty you face for dealing cocaine in Arkansas depends greatly on how much cocaine you have in your possession. Arkansas generally follows federal guidelines, which stipulate anyone found with more than 500 mg of cocaine is subject to felony trafficking charges.
That’s MILLIGRAMS my friend, milligrams. So, yes I was wrong, just not wrong like you hoped. That’s .5 grams, or one-half gram.
Matt Jones had SIX GRAMS of cocaine.
Excellent. This goes in the database, don’t miss a trick, people. The hard evidence will no longer disappear right from under our noses.
Honestly, i don’t think several of these people really understand how much cocaine that is.
Stupid fatassman comes on here and COMPLETELY ILLUSTRATES the heart of white racism….To whom do you give the benefit of the doubt….and does so with an apparent straight face. They’re so inculcated with it, so completely surrounded by it that they can’t or don’t see how fucking ridiculous they look to anyone who isn’t white or works for the MSM-hear that cracklin’ lips, Uncle Tom Wilbon and Ms. Hill?
I am in no way, shape, or form saying that racial bias is extinct. I am saying its a little ignorant to decree racial bias off the bat. Johnny Jolly of the GB Packers is African American and was “arrested in Houston on felony drug possession charge, allegedly found with 200 grams of codeine” and there wasnt even a page of coverage. I gave you the website to show you that not every arrest gets covered and documented. Chris Henry had problems prior to that, Pacman kept getting into late night issues, Marshawn Lynch HIT someone thats why it got so much coverage.
I just want to let you and the author know that there were Boo’s when Matt Jones came out. People were screaming and cursing his name at the preseason game. I sat there listening wondering why he’s even on the team if this the reaction of most fans.
I’ll give you the link again and I hope you look at it and realize half of those didnt even last a segment or page on ESPN.:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html
By the way I’m Cuban. Just raised here in America.
Matt Jones and this Jolley cat from Green Bay received the same amount of coverage on their stories.
The difference is Matt Jones is a former first round pick whose switch from QB to wideout was chronicled in detail by the media and he has a much higher profile than Jolley. If they both received the same coverage despite the fact that the media claims it decides who gets covered based on their celebrity then something is wrong.
I would disagree Big Man because they arent covering “what is right” They are covering the stuff that will get people interested in the program. Matt Jones got more coverage because no one even heard of Jolly’s felony charge. Goodell has yet to decide Jolly’s fate which happened two days prior to Matt Jones getting arrested. My point is that the reason of no coverage is because there are other things to talk about such as Brett Favre, the NFL preseason, olympics, baseball division races, etc etc. It’s not because he is white. It only takes one example to prove a theory wrong but eternity to make it seem valid. I have given you a website with a list of players that have not been “punished” by Goodell and the media like Pac Man or Chris Henry.
But it seems like most people on here are implying that his charge has been forgotten when he is ridiculed by Jacksonville all the time. Matt Jones is a nobody in the world of sports compared to Favre, Olympic/Phelps/Redeem Team, NFL preseason starting/Aaron Rodgers burden. That is the reason it’s not being covered. Nothing to do with race, at least at the magnitude of what these people are implying.
Kevdog you really think claiming i’m a “sworn enemy” bothers me one bit? I hope not.
Did you seriously just say he cant be a bigot because he’s white? Seriously? I would figure an “all-knowing” (at least when it comes to everything race) guy like you would know that is incredibly inaccurate. For a pair of people who apparently know the struggles of races I would assume you know a race can hate their own race just as easily as a white vs black or middle east vs pacific islander etc etc. I believe someone who just assumes “its because he’s white” is a lazy piece of shit with absolutely no intelligence or ability to analyze a situation and come up with a valid solution. Instead you lazy people swing your arms in protest of how whites vs everyone else is treated. The NFL is too wide to care about the “white man” only. If you’ll wake up and realize media is not as racist and the NFL is not as racist as you are claiming. They are greedy men that want to make MONEY not a burst of white supremacy. But then again what would America be without the little hippies like yourselves?
LyingJags says
“I am in no way, shape, or form saying that racial bias is extinct”
Bullshit. You must be used to dealing with some STUPID MF’s. Come on up here with that “Race Card” BS and get called on it, now you were mis-interpreted? Adding lying to your neo-con white boy spiel isn’t going to save you any face here.
Hey Boy, I hear the ESPN message boards calling you. Don’t forget to clean up after yourself on the way out.
Pissant apologist for white racism.
Just like a little political journalist. Leaving out other important parts of a quote. Remember how I said it is “IGNORANT TO DECREE RACIAL BIAS OFF THE BAT”
I hope you can read that and not just the first sentence. Read everything I say before you spit out that garbage.
White boy Jags says
“By the way I’m Cuban. Just raised here in America.”
Like MODI said, you’re as white as Casper and being a white boy from Cuba don’t make you brown. Don’t be trying to jump on the black/brown train fool. In Cuba, your family didn’t go near the dark cubanos and here, you vote Republican 10 times out of 10. And all the white boys you hang with drop “race card’ as easily as they do “nigger.”
Damn you must think we some stupid folk.
You are stupid folk because youre assumptions are childish and embarassing to this country. I claim independant neither democrat nor republican and for you to assume something like that shows your naive and childish mentality. I’m not going to sit here and explain who I am friends with because you’re a waste of time and unless you can respond with something a bit more intelligent my discussion with you is over. It’s a shame you are incapable of discussing like an educated human being.
MODI
You have seen Sarah Schorno’s posts before, although you might not realize it. She’s the editor of Playing the Field and the author of the “FanHouse? More Like Whore House.” article you linked to in a recent ThinkLinks piece.
Can’t read for shit Hags says
“Did you seriously just say he cant be a bigot because he’s white”
Now you can’t even read eh? Exactly where was it where I said Boney can’t be a bigot I asked a question. Now if Boney is a bigot towards white folks, well, he’s apparently seen enough to know what he was told ain’t true. You on the other hand, well, kiss enough ass and get some pats on the head eh boy?
Kisses white ass for breakfastJags says
“It’s a shame you are incapable of discussing like an educated human being.”
Shit man, I got an advanced degree from a top 5 school that says I CAN do what you say I cannot. I choose to not discuss this in any other way with you because you’re a lying sack who trolls the internet looking to advance your kiss ass ways at the expense of the truth. You get what you earn here boy.
This site has been here for quite some time and the first time you come on, you’re making pulling out the “race card” trick and making excuses for the racist to it’s core MSM and NFL.
Yo dude, and excuse me D, MODI, MC and SML, but sincerely
Fuck you.
Lying sack Jags says
“I claim independant neither democrat nor republican and for you to assume something like that shows your naive and childish mentality.”
I don’t give a damn what you “claim” We all know that you VOTE Republican 10 times out of 10. Just like we knew you were white, even though you tried that Cubano ruse.
And maybe you need to go to college before entering into this discussion. First thing for you to do, besides checking in at the “La Raza” table for some sorely needed guidance, is to learn the meaning of the word “naive.”
Broke as a Joke Jags says
“But then again what would America be without the little hippies like yourselves?”
You up for a game of “big bank takes little bank?
JagsFTW,
I want to know more about Stockar McDougle and his arrest at a nursery about some bonsai trees
Hippies and race card are not phrases you want to use if you want to be taken seriously around here.
That’s some Eric Cartman type shit.
Jag88,
Yo dude. You need to vanish or get better ammo from your racist enabling friends at whatever dumbass site you ususually hang your hat. Bad move bringing up the Cubano thing trying to make it sound like you ain’t a white racist. You must think people are f*cking idiots. KevDog has taken your lunch, eaten it, and turned it into poo. Quit while you are not ahead.
Yeah, I am waiting for Goodell to suspend Matt “candy nose” Jones for this nonsense. I swear if someone gets Goodell drunk he might actually say “I hate black people!” I am sick and tired of sports where the majority of the players are black but are only represented minimally in the front office of the management side. I understand of course: they want to get white people watching and it’s comforting for them to see white people in charge, but to hell with that. If the NFL or NBA can’t sustain their level of success with a fair representation of minorities in the leadership positions than maybe they need to go away.
See Big man, I wouldnt have if he was capable of a discussion rather than name calling and piss poor assumption that have no factual evidence. I used the race card meaning this and this alone- Jumping to the conclusion that he is not getting coverage because he is white is not something that is likely.
KevDog, on the other hand, insists on making these uneducated assumptions about me to try to attack the point of view. He’s attacked a race im not a part of then insulted it like I was a terrorist or something, then without ever seeing me im not even a real Cuban which is the dumbest thing i’ve ever read on a blog or website. If I have to please Kevdog to be taken seriously then the people of this site need help fast. He claims he is a graduate of a top 5 college but has yet to show any sign of intelligence.
Now I have demonstrated why that is less likely with evidence and police reports. With logic and then reality of the mindset NFL owners and staff take. They want to win whether your green, blue, black, brown, etc. However certain people here are too egocentric to open their eyes and realize that everything isnt about extremes. It’s either youre a white supremecist or a student of KevDogs factless and blind opinionated philosophy. No grey area is in existance.
I hope Jones gets a boot from the team. And Goodell decides to become a commissioner rather than an inconsistant punisher and tyrant. But this isnt about race. I think it’s more first offense type.
Lying Pissant trying to backpedal. Fucking pathetic.
Again you come on this site and make all these generalizations when your point has been refuted here time and time again in the past. Matt Jones should be the PERFECT story for the MSM to pounce on as they have in the past. First round pick, wide receiver who for some reason is not living up to his potential. Then bam he’s pinched with 6 grams of coke. If the ESPN’s business model was not predicated on pursuing the transgressions of black athletes, then there should have been at least 5 columnists making jokes about his situation and/or dissecting his childhood and who he hangs with. But there was none of that. And black people notice it.
How’d I back pedal? I have not once said he should play football still. I have not once said Goodell shouldnt do anything. I tried to make educated assumptions on why Goodell didnt do anything yet and I have told you my opinion on Matt Jones. So learn how to analyze an argument. College graduate my ass you cant even correctly read arguments how are you a college grad? I’d hope that at least ONE argument coming from your boney little finger would have one hair of evidence to back you up rather than pure, uneducated speculation. Talk about pathetic.
awb you are looking from the “just” point of view not the business point of view and thats understandable. But are you telling me a Matt Jones article would rake in better ratings or views than a Favre or Olympic article? Just answer that blunt straight to the point question and we can go from there.
Jags
The point is flying over your head. I would suggest you read MODI’s excellent series of articles about the fact that documenting the misdeeds of black athletes is part of ESPN’s business strategy, while documenting the same misdeeds of white athletes is not. Basically, the overwhelmingly white male audience that makes up ESPN’s base likes to read or hear about black people fucking up so that it can make racist jokes and feel better about itself, but doesn’t get the same enjoyment with white folks.
So, yes, we all understand that ESPN is not paying attention to Jones because there are better ways for it to make money. Our point is that the company is making money off of racism while purporting to be an objective news source. That’s bullshit of the highest order and this website and the people who come here will not sit idly by while this continues.
You seem to missing the point that something unfair is occuring here, or minimizing the fact that an injustice is occuring by saying “What can you expect?” Either way, we don’t play that bullshit round here and KevDog called you on it. We are far from lemmings on this site and regularly debate and disagree with each other, but none of us are stupid enough to let somebody tell us that racism is no big deal because that’s the way the world works.
We ain’t stupid like that.
Jags,
I got to agree with Big Man on this one.
You came here with your list of Black and white athletes that had felonies or misdemeanor charges against them that weren’t picked up by Godell or MSM and claim that it is somehow sufficient proof that black and white athletes are treated the same. Sure it is a necessary condition, but it is far from sufficient.
What you would also need to show that Godell and MSN are not racist is a similar list of white athletes that when charged were given similar suspensions and coverage to Chris Henry and Pacman and … (list goes on).
I can understand that point of view and I would like to thank you for demonstrating it in a civil way. However, I’d like you to give examples of a white guy that has been even accused of crimes the same amount Pac Man has or Chris Henry. While I do not back Jones or Goodell up I will not buckle to the notion that it is strictly because he is white and nothing else. I would agree with a suspension to keep things fair. I would also agree with the Jags if they cut him. Goodell is a terrible commish, I’ll agree with that. I just think that claiming its because he is white is jumping the gun. It only takes one trial to prove a theory wrong in science and the same thing goes for this broad un-thoughtout accusation. Just my opinion. Thank you though for saying it like you did.
That wasnt proof that they are treated the same it is proof that claiming its because of race is too fast and unfair. If Jolly gets suspended and Jones does not then case closed. It happened 2 days from each other so I would expect decisions about the both of them to occur rather close. KevDog just twisted everything I said into an extreme and I probably didnt help. Like I said Its black or white with that guy and the other one.
Whiteboysloppyseconds Jags says
” just think that claiming its because he is white is jumping the gun.”
Spoken like a true, blue, white boy.
Cubano?
LOLOL
Jags
What about Jared Allen?
Multiple drunk driving arrests, but he only gets a two game suspension while other players get at least four games. The reason given is that hte commish felt he was repentant.
Bullshit.
“give examples of a white guy that has been even accused of crimes the same amount Pac Man has or Chris Henry”
See this is the beauty of this site, because an arguement like that isn’t going to hold up here. This is where we transence from sports into society. I don’t want to completely hijack this thread, but the Toronto Star recently did a huge freedom of information request to study the racial break down of the Canadian justice system. What they found was that blacks were far - far - far more likely to be acquitted of crimes here. It doesn’t take a large leap to realize this is because police are far - far - far more likely to exaggerate or even fabricate charges against blacks.
But even then this is besides the point. The entire point of Dwil’s article here is that Jones this the white guy your looking for. 6 grams is a lot of coke, it’s a serious offense. And sure it’s only one guy and one crime so he can’t on his own constitute a pattern, but I guarantee if you keep reading this site or look back in the archives you’ll see there are other examples.
Big Man,
Also Odell Thurman was charged with the same thing (mutliple DUIs) and eventually was suspended a whole year.
Anyone know what happened to his lawsuit claiming the NFL suspended him for being an alcoholic (a legal disability)?
Jags,
Big Man explained my point for me. And how do you explain shit like Jared Allen only getting a 2 game suspension because he was “repentant?” What kind of subjective crap is that? Who the hell judges repentance? How can that be quantified and used as a justification for a lighter penalty for someone? That’s some ol’ bullspit.
The MSN (ESPN) decided to go after Mike Vick with a vengeance over dog fighting while ignoring another story where a women got raped in the home of a football player. The MSN decided to dog Barry Bonds through the years on some drug sh*t but ignored Roger Clemons when there was even more circumstancial evidence to hound him with than there was with Bonds. To add insult to injury, when these guys get caught with the pants down they almost always get the benefit of the doubt. Hell, the Rocket virtually forced ESPN to come down on him. If he did not say a word they would still be making excuses. Dude, this shit has has been discussed time and time again.
Hell I knew what was going down the day that MF’er became commissioner. Hate to sound like conspiracy brother, but all of a sudden, I start hearing how the NFL has an “image” problem from one of the WWL’s radio morons (Cowherd). Said they don’t want to “end up” like the NBA. Man, after that I knew it was on and sure enough, Goodell the “law and order” commish suspending cats. To hell with due process, I got to ride these bucks around the stable until they understand who the boss is around here. ESPN knows who their audience is and it ain’t me. ESPN’s narratives are almost always aimed at villifying some black athlete or another. TO, Randy Moss and Chad Johnson are bad guys but world class assholes like Randy Johnson and Mike Mussina are intense. Give me a frickin’ break.
awb
You speak some serous truth. But you’re casting your pearls before lying ass, Pissant, Republican, White boy Cubano swine.
Cpt. Sunshine,
I’m sorry but:
“Anyone know what happened to his lawsuit claiming the NFL suspended him for being an alcoholic (a legal disability)?”
I call bullshit on claiming being an alcoholic is a disability. Drinking alcohol is a choice, just like smoking. It shouldn’t be the NFL’s fault that you can’t control something you chose to do. I think that’s a fair statement to make..
I’m sure others have been arrested for DUI or have failed the NFL’s substance abuse testing, but comparing Allen to Thurman is like trying to compare apples to kiwis. Allen has had 2 DUIs since being in the league while Thurman has more than a few run ins with the authorities.
Allen was originally suspended for 4 games, but he appealed his suspension and reduced it to 2. He’s likely done for an entire season if he’s arrested again for DUI. I’d put a year of KevDog’s salary up for bet on that one. No way Allen isn’t suspended at least 8 - 16 games for his next offense.
Boney says
“I’d put a year of KevDog’s salary up for bet on that one.”
Do I have a say in this?
Boney,
Actually there is a general scientific consensus that Alcoholism is a least partially caused by chemical dependence due to a persons genes
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=seeking-the-connections-alcoholism-and-our-genes
My comment on Alcholism being a legal disability is based on legal precedent here in Canada. It is considered discrimination to fire someone based on them being an Alcoholic and I’m fairly sure a similar precedent exists in the US, although I could be wrong.
Either way, the outcome of the Thurman lawsuit could force the NFL to actually write an official player code of conduct into the next collective bargaining agreement (if one doesn’t already exist), which would outline specific penalties for specific behaviors, thus ending Godell’s ability to suspend anyone he wants, whenever he wants. Hopefully also ending the racist manner in which Godell abuses his power.
alcohol and drug addiction is generally considered to be a disease by health professionals. at least that’s what they tell the public.
Cpt. Sunshine,
I agree with the whole writing a conduct code in the next CBA.
I don’t see how it’s discrimination to fire somene because of something that may prohibit the employee from performing at 100% efficiency. I understand that there are things in place saying that it is discrimination, but color me republican if I don’t believe that shit’s right.
Big Man,
I understand that. But I also understand that health insurance providers charge smokers a higher rate under the assumption that they will have more visits to the hospital when really, that’s discrimination too…. right?
I apologize if anyone here has had a friend or family member pass away because of drugs or alcohol, but I don’t honestly see how something you can control is called a disease. It’s not like cancer… I don’t like going to work sometimes, hopefully there’s a disability for that?
KevDog,
well, I was going to put up my money in the amount of your yearly salary.. which would be like 3 years of everyone else’s salary…
I only added your name because you’re the one making the cash around here….
It’s cool Boney, just so long as I get a cut.
@ Everyone:
Why y’all beat down the RRCP’s (Reverse Race Card Players) like that? Next thing you know they’ll come on here and blame hip-hop for everything. Or they’ll say they were robbed by a black guy and that’s why they are so suspicous of blacks. Or their girlfriend was found giving me a lap dance (no panties, no bra) in the back seat of their Jeep. Or a black called ‘em a white boy and it hurt real real bad, so it’s OK for them to be racist. Or they heard Chris Rock use the n-word, so it’s OK for them to use it. Or all the black guys in their neighborhood are bad people and they’ll pull that one perfect Negro that works at their office who is “OK,” but the “rest of them people….” Or decent black folk deserve to get chumped because Flavor Flav slobbed a perfectly decent white girl on “Flavor of Love.”
Need I go on? RRCP’s, go back to the ESPN cesspool and make innuendos about how the only pretty black woman is Halle Berry and you wish she’d play tennis so that you don’t have to look at the Williams sisters.
And if you can’t remember that: just remember my name and Phil Deeze….Salty Nuts.
dwil -
If you really want to know what you are talking about, try looking up the statute he was charged under (Arkansas Code Annotated 5-64-401) rather that posting a link to some self-help website (which, like you, is INNACURATE). 500 milligrams has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING under Arkansas law. The presumptive amount (which I assume you think you were referring to) is one gram. That is a REBUTTABLE presumption (which the jury would not be infomed of), meaning that the prosecutor would need additional evidence to show that he had the intent to deliver it. A person can be charged with and convicted of possession with intent to deliver for having .1 grams or .05 grams…IF there is other evidence of intent to deliver.
There is no automatic bump-up to a higher charge based on the weight of the drugs. The State still has to prove the intent. What evidence are you aware of that he was going to sell the cocaine? He was sitting in the back of a car dividing it into lines to snort. If there were evidence, he could be charged with posession with intent.
As I said before, say what you want to about him getting suspended or whatever you want to about how guilty he is of the charge, just educate yourself on the law IN ARKANSAS before you start ripping on the prosecutor.
fatman-
Stop with the persistent B.S.
You see, Ark. Code Ann. § 5-64-401, through all the crap, is merely a possession of a controlled substance charge. So all you did was state the obvious - and reiterate the problem with Jones’ charge
And all the rebuttable presumption crap you’re talking about has to do with what goes on IN COURT, not with the initial charge, so save that for your courtroom appearance in defense of Jones. The state must prove intent IN COURT, not upon arrest.
Jags-
-Jared Allen- lowered suspension because he is repentant??? (as has been told here in the comments). No black player is afforded this gift by Goodell.
-Patrick Kerney - a rape occurs in his house. Though the woman says Kerney was not involved, he was responsible for her being in his house. Goodell speaks eloquently about accountability, but none is applied to Kerney. He gets traded from the Falcons to the Seahawks and the case disappears from public view. BUT Sean Taylor gets murdered in his house and the talk is about the people he hangs with (turns out he is a loner and hangs with no one outside of his family) and questions abound about why he was not with his team - the Redskins - instead of down in Florida (it turns out he was with the team but was granted permission to go home because he found out that SOMEONE HAD BROKEN INTO HIS HOME!). Though he was murdered, Taylor was dragged through the mud, but Kerney escapes unscathed. No one investigates the Kerney case but everyone jumps the gun on Taylor.
Brad Miller gets busted for the 3rd time for a dirty urine - pot. Nothing is made of his getting busted. Joakim Noah gets busted for the first time and is one of the lead topics of news (ESPN) for three days. Noah is tlaked to by his college coach and Bulls management. Not Miller.
See, this is the kind of disparity that exists in the treatment and reporting of black and white athletes.
Jared Allen is also a first time I believe. However he did get the same suspension as anyone else at first. Perhaps his admitance at fault was enough to sway Goodell. But remember I dont agree with anything Goodell does. I think by focusing on JUST bad stuff in the NFL he is making it worse IMO.
Kerney- “Though the woman says Kerney was not involved” That was most likely the reason he was not suspended because he had nothing to do with it. I’m not saying he’s a saint but if the victim says it then how is it fair if he gets suspended?
Sean Taylor didnt have the best reputation from a public eye. He displayed that type of character at times in the perspective of the public. Though it was completly tragic and we learned how great of a person he was, I dont think it’s fair to use that against “espn” as a whole because they have done nothing but have countless segments in his memory and gave the public the real Sean Taylor. No one called BS when these stories came out either. Police also did not just sweep it under the rug. Instead they investigated to bring Sean to justice.
I can explain the Noah thing. He had already been suspended and scrutinized within his own team because of his attitude and “thug” vibe. That’s why they covered it for only ONE day.
I admit the public eye will automatically relate anything with an African American man to a thug. That is regrettable because there are many great men in that nationality. But is it truely fair to assume thats the case everytime? In my opinion it seems like you are doing the same thing you accuse the media of doing. Because of past examples this must mean it is the same way.
Because there is evidence of racism it must mean its because he’s white
Because most black athletes get arrested at clubs with the wrong people it must mean he is a thug and should be punished.
See my point? It is just unfair. Do you live in Jax by any chance? Cause if not then I can tell you the way he’s treated here. He was boo’d by almost everyone around me at the preseason game… cept for a group of 5 guys who were drunk and chanting “legalize cocaine”
“Thug Vibe”
Are you fucking serious? Noah wore a fucking seersucker suit and bowtie to the fucking draft!
“Thug Vibe”
Sean Taylor’s “character”
Motherfucking code words for “bad niggers.”
See this bullshit will not fly on this website. We will not allow code words and undercover slurs. Put on the fucking hood and say what you really feel. How can you admit that the public automatically relates anything involving an African American man to the “thug life” and the complain that we can’t automatically assume that white folks are being treated differently because they are white?
That makes no logical sense. You are making no fucking sense.
Fatman
As somebody who deals with the police regularly, I know that if somebody is caught on the street with a certain amount of cocaine they are often automatically booked with possession with intent to distribute. For folks with crack cocaine this can be as little as one gram, and they will still be booked with possession with intent to distribute if they are found with drug paraphernalia like a crack pipe.
In fact, police officers often will book suspects with a simple possession charge and possession with intent to distribute charge because it’s a more effective way to get confessions and get a higher bond.
Matt Jones was found with six grams of cocaine. I would argue that if Matt Jones was black and found with six grams of crack cocaine he would have been booked with possession with intent to distribute even if he had a crack pipe in his pocket. That’s based on my review of dozens of police records and arrest records.
Can you dispute this?
Noah had a “Thug Vibe?” That’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Either you don’t know what a thug is or you are racist.
The women said Kerney wasn’t involved? Thats’ exactly what the resident of Michael Vicks house told police-that Vick was not involved with anything that went on in the house.
Sean Taylor’s “character issues” was something entirely made up by the media in my opinion. If he was still alive there would be plenty of people who still thought he was some sort of gangster whose lifestyle brought on a gangland hit. It took his death to open a lot of peoples eyes to how ESPN really works.
Dude, Jared Allen suspension was apparently lowered because he was “repentent” at his appeal. Travis Henry beats appeals his drug test and the NFL basically says we still think he’s dirty. And mind you he was not arrested for anything as far as I can tell. If you can’t see the double standard you are willfully ignoring it.
Big Man,
“See this bullshit will not fly on this website”
Apparently this website is the smartest blog undisputed right? Shutup.
Joakim is a spoiled rotten kid. When your entire team thinks you should be punished more youre going to get more coverage if you mess up anywhere else. Not everyday does an athletes entire team go to the front office and demand he sit another game. He got in a disagreement with another coach. How does the word thug automatically mean someone is racist? Oh my God a guy with the confederate flag MUST mean hes racist right? Goodness gracious, if you just read some of your own statements I think it would overtake anything i’ve said.
Oh just for the record. I went to the FSU UF basketball game two years ago in Tallassee, a friend was attending FSU at the time and Noah was flashing gang signs and threatening every FSU fan that spoke his name. The kid is not only an emotional wreck but acts like he’s the hardest man in Gainesville. Don’t try to tie in his aparrel as a sign he doesnt act all hard ass.
If you are going to associate “character” with anything else other than its actual meaning then that is your business but doing that makes you and everyone else that has done that on this site look pathetic.
“The women said Kerney wasn’t involved? Thats’ exactly what the resident of Michael Vicks house told police-that Vick was not involved with anything that went on in the house.”
So by that you can assume its a white thing like everyone else assumes its a black thing when they get arrested? The same thing you have a problem with? You are a hypocrit. Hands down you are the definition of hypocritical. You bitch and moan about people making judgements on black people when you make a judgement on the media and white people. You sir are no better than the people you swear as your enemy. If that does not make sense to you then I feel sorry for you. Because that would suck to walk around with a hypocritical point of view.
Anon
What the fuck is your definition of a “thug?”
How can you be a spoiled rotten kid, and be a thug? Explain how the fuck Noah is a thug? What thug do you know that wears seersucker and a bow tie? Was he a thug at Florida? Billy Donovan sure didn’t think so.
I could give a fuck if you felt threatened by Noah at a basketball game. And tell me, are you an expert on gang signs? Do you know which signs the Crips, Bloods and Latin Kings use? You wouldn’t a know a fucking gang sign if it smacked you in your thick ass head.
Point blank, I ate your dumb ass logic up and pointed out a fallacy in your thinking. You admitted that white people stereotype black people and then came back and said that white people don’t get treated differently than black people. That makes no sense. If black players are stereotyped as thugs and white people are not, then white people get treated differently and better than black people. End of discussion.
This website is smarter then any other you visit. I’m pretty sure you’re hailed as a genius at the the spots you normally visit and hear you’ve been exposed as an idiot who can’t put together a logical argument without contradicting himself.
Anonymous-
“Apparently this website is the smartest blog undisputed right?”
And that “Shutup” shit doesn’t fly here. either. You haven’t the respect of anyone here to be able to include “shut up” in your comments.
Noah’s team “punishment” dealt primarily with public comments he made concerning his perceptions about the Bulls’ collective effort .
Thug? Besides being code for nigger, it is an utterly ridiculous description when applied to Noah.
And your excuses for the white athletes? So hackneyed, so predictable.
But what happened to your defense of Brad Miller? Like ESPN, when wrong, omission is the best policy; hopefully everyone will forget or overlook your error.
From the American Heritage Dictionary:
A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
also Thug: One of a band of professional assassins formerly active in northern India who worshiped Kali and offered their victims to her
In case you dont know :
Hoodlum-A tough, often aggressive or violent youth.
Ruffian-a tough, lawless person; roughneck; bully.
If flashing gang signs and threatening to kill FSU spectators is not aggressive in todays society then you live in a barbaric area. Billy Donovan didnt think so? So you know Billy Donovan right? You’ve obviously asked him that exact question right? Again you are displaying uneducated assumptions. Way to go. Now I will say to you he is not the worst of them or even close. He is mild extremly.
You ate what up? You’re hypocritical in your belief. You didnt eat anything up. You can’t bash logic when your own is hypocritical about the true subject at hand. I say dont automatically assume its a race thing. You say otherwise because people wrongfully judge because they dont know the facts about black athletes such as Sean Taylor. Well let’s visit that logic ONE MORE TIME cause after that I will buy you a hooked on phonics so you can comprehend better in 2-3 weeks time.
You are complaining about quick judgement on black athletes. But you are quickly judging the media as racist.
Others use past examples to determine if a black athlete is getting into shenanegins because he’s hanging with the wrong crowd or a hoodlum. You use past examples to determine if the media is racist.
That sounds like the same logic being used and shunned by the same person… its sounds like that because YOU ARE using the same logic that you are disgusted with. But only if that person is not white.
I happen to know the crip and blood signs because I used to work at a institute for police technology and management. So yes, I happen to know what exactly it was that he was flashin to the crowd.
What is your definition of a thug? Apparently something made up of generalizations you see outside of a library. You should read a book or two guy.
But what happened to your defense of Brad Miller? Like ESPN, when wrong, omission is the best policy; hopefully everyone will forget or overlook your error.
Youre right sorry I didnt include that. I did some more research on him and have yet to find anything on him since I didnt know through personal experience or even cared about Brad Miller or the teams he has been apart of. But that should have been dealt with accordingly and perhaps it wasnt.
But how does that make it right to deem the matt jones issue on his color? It isnt right to deem a black guy a thug because he’s black. Its not right to deem a french guy a wuss because he’s french. So it is not right to bash anybody not covering his issue for more than 3 days because he’s white. Goodell is inconsistant with everyone and that was obvious. It is hypocritical to say that when you have all these arguments attacking that very logic. I’m not saying they should be treated different, they shouldnt it should be fair.
You think I care if I have respect here enough to say shutup? Honestly… I dont care. And I dont expect you to.
You ask how do you have a spoiled and a thug? Easy the kid thinks he’s above everyone else and does things just to either piss the parents off or piss off society. Joakims suspension was for talking back to the coach not the media.
Hey dumbass
When Noah first started catching flak in the NBA and when he got into that problem with the cheerleader, Donovan went out of his way to say what a great teammate and leader Noah was. His teammates at Florida said the same thing. So, while I don’t know Donovan, I have followed this story and heard what the folks who knew Noah have said about him.
But, you keep pretending that Noah, the son of a French tennis star, is a “thug.” A “ruffian.” I wonder if you call all the random white kids on Facebook and Myspace flashing “gang signs” thugs.
And let me give you a quick primer on intelligent thinking. The media has in the past and continues to today to treat black athletes differently from white athletes. This is a rampant problem in every level of media coverage, a problem that has been meticulously documented on this website, and one I, as a media member, have documented myself. This is not some random theory I just pulled out of my ass and it’s easily verifiable by a reading of any of the dozens of books that document racial bias in the media.
Me pointing out the racism of the media is different than some random white person assuming all black people are thugs because some black people get arrested. It’s not even in the same league. But, because you are searching for an excuse to justify white racism and create a false equality between the media’s treatment of black athletes and our criticism of the media, you made an illogical comparison.
There is no comparison which is why your complaints of hypocrisy are stupid. But you keep on throwing them around. You keep on telling me that white people seeing one black person arrested and then deciding that all black people are criminals is the same thing as me pointing out a well documented racial bias among the mainstream media. It only proves your ignorance and justifies the insults I’ve directed towards you.
A thug is a criminal. A thug is not a black person who gets into an argument with his coach. If arguing with your coach makes you a “thug” then the vast majority of the people who have played professional sports are thugs. Brett Favre is a thug, Dan Marino is a thug.
Your bullshit about “gang signs” is bullshit. Noah has done nothing that is listed in the definitions you provided, yet you insist on using racially coded language to discuss him because it allows you say what you really want without the backlash.
Just go ahead an call him a “bad nigger.”
You’ll feel better when you’re being honest.
anon, stop and ask yourself why you don’t know about Brad Miller… stop and ask why you weren’t informed — or that this could be applied to countless white athletes., let me just say that you will soon be educated on this Brad Miller shit that go far beyond Miller himself. Be sure to come back now.
Everyone who uses the word “thug” always say that they are not being race specific, but funny thing. Everytime I check any ESPN conversation room between misbehaving black and white athletes, “thug” only really keeps showing up for the black ones. go figure. Time to look in that mirror anon…
Note: have responses to the rest of the good conversation… will come back later…
anon ” Oh my God a guy with the confederate flag MUST mean hes racist right?” ANYONE flying the confederate flag as their flag of choice is an unequivocal RACIST! and for you to argue otherwise exposes you as a racist pig! You’re my sworn enemy. Kevdog royalty check coming.
“How does the word thug automatically mean someone is racist?” Name me a white athlete that any espn talking head has labled a thug?
“Though it was completly tragic and we learned how great of a person he was, I dont think it’s fair to use that against “espn” as a whole because they have done nothing but have countless segments in his memory and gave the public the real Sean Taylor” Did espn take the opportunity to speak about irresponsible journalism? Did it condemn or rebuke the cowherd or jim rome of the world? No the did NOTHING! They fed the negative perceptions of Taylor and they never apologized for it. They too are racist, in their own way they too fly the confederate flag.
Noah flashing gang signs, mothafuka you would not know the difference between a gang sign and the peace sign. You’re the same mothafuka that confuse dap for terrorist jab.
“If you are going to associate “character” with anything else other than its actual meaning then that is your business but doing that makes you and everyone else that has done that on this site look pathetic” You or any other white person should never talk about character as it relates to tohers, you know not what it means. Lets ask the native americans about your character, lets ask the iraqis about your character.
I need to be very clear on this point, WHITE PEOPLE DON’T GET THE RIGHT TO DEFINE CHARACTER TO ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, EVER!
“Apparently this website is the smartest blog undisputed right?” What’s apparent is that you with your FSU eduction you don’t know the difference between nationality and ethnicity ‘(I admit the public eye will automatically relate anything with an African American man to a thug. That is regrettable because there are many great men in that nationality)”. So anon, you are subtracting from the intellect on this board. Get your confederate flag and take your ass over there with the illiterate white boys.
@Anonymous:
The ESPN comments board is that way ——————–>
Go pick on Scoop Jackson or Jemelle Hill, you idiot.
Anon,
Yes, there is double standard. ESPN decided that there was no story to pursue when the rape victim said Kerney wasn’t involved yet decided to go whole hog after Vick. Over some goddamned dogs. Man open your eyes. There was a post on this site a couple of weeks ago about how a NFL team owner races greyhounds!! Hell they probably kill more dogs in that industry than dog fighting. Where is the outrage for that?
It’s been this way for awhile. Remember when the U.S. Hockey “Dream Team” trashed their quarters? The mullet guy on ESPN gave it up to them for not revealing the culprits aaaand that was it. There was no examination on what type of environments they grew up in ect, ect. Contrast that with the way the U.S. Basketball team was treated and try to come up with an incident that was comparable and see how they were trashed. By our own media. The other teams were trashing the U.S. team and our own media was right behind them. That’s B.S.
And if that doesn’t convince you (and really, this is just an excersise in futility because your mind is made up) the recent PED scandal with white ball players who were only doing it to “get over injuries” and Roger Clemons being given the benefit of the doubt is so blatant that it boggles the mind.
Awb:
Don’t forget what happened with the US swim team in Seoul in 1988: members of the team stole a Korean artifact and TRULY embarrassed a nation. When you’re the guest of another country and someone off a national team steals an ancient piece of art, that’s a situation that could require a diplomatic solution.
JT2’s basketball team lost to the Soviets. Took their loss like men, shook hands and left the court like champs that had been there before. But the white media villified Thompson for the team he selected. Two years later, Mike Krzyzewski picked and coached a team of the best collegians of their day (Laettner, for example) and they lost at Worlds. Coach K wasn’t villified in the least. In fact, he was allowed to be an integral part of the Dream Team (developmental squad that helped prep the Olympic team) and now he’s the coach of yet another international squad.
[…] Matt Jones comes back and nobody mentions blow? Or his arraignment on felony charges tomorrow? How dare they talk about football during a football game. All joking aside (because we all know how funny felony coke charges are), I’m not sure if this is a racial thing, or just uninformed analysts. Or the fact that we’re so immune to the legal issues that nobody gives a shit anymore. Apathy is the devil. [Sports on My Mind] […]
Does it really matter; none of them get in trouble anyway! How many college and pro football players in the last 2 or 3 years have been arrested and received nothing more than a couple game suspension and community service or less? probably over 50 players; nothing, 95% of them black. With all the racist black columnists with ESPN there must be a conspiracy, the fact it wasnt wide spread means there might not be much to it.