(Matt Jones Update)… White Boys Gone Wild: It’s a Racist, Racist World
July 11, 2008
Matt Jones update: According to this AP article, Jones was busted with six grams of cocaine (the threshold for distribution is one gram). Yet he was being held on only a $2500 bond, which he met and was released.
Jones was arrestred with two other people, Jared Hicks and Benjamin Cook, but here’s what a prosecutor “determined”:
Police said 6 grams of cocaine was found. The threshold for potential charges of possession with intent to deliver is 1 gram. However, prosecutor John Threet said there is no evidence that Jones intended to deal the drug.
No evidence of that Jones intended to sell the drug? Now I know that Matt Jones has money and probably bought the coke for he and his buddies. However, when one person has six grams and the other people have no grams (apparently) is it not possible that Jones was selling to the other two people?
As a comparison, when Davon Boddie, Michael Vick’s cousin was busted in a parking lot with friends - how this went down has never been sussed out - with around four ounces of pot, he was charged with possession of pot with the intent to distribute. Now, Boddie lived in a beautiful 4,500 square foot home and obviously had some money at his disposal. How could the prosecutor of that case not see thgat Boddie had the weed for he and his friends?
But in Jones’ case it is automatically assumed that he had no intent to sell the coke?
The prosecutor’s action is a leap over the boundaries of drug laws as they stand - stringent as they are - that can only be intended to lessen the potential for Jones to walk away from this experience with anything more than probation.
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It’s a baaaad day for white athletes everywhere. Matt Jones (mug shot, right), Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver - busted for coke and pot. Dude was caught chopping yay-yo with a credit card, had a bag of yay on him and a bag of chronic. Hmmm, snort some yay to get up, puff puff a J to take the edge off, eh Matty J?
Next Brad Miller power forward/center for the Sacramento Kings - busted for the third time “ridin’ dirrrty” for marijuana on the NBA pee test highway. He is now suspended for the first five games of the 2008-2009 Kings season.
Glancing around the Internet, white people have already begun making excuses for Jones:
“So what. He stunk it up in Jacksonville and never lived up to his potential and he was going to get cut anyway.”
C’mon all you out there I designate as “crackers.” Where is your venom? Where are all the, “Fuck Matt Jones, I hope he never plays another down in the NFL” type comments? Where are all the, “It’s not a right bur a privilege to play in the NFL (or NBA, in the case of Miller)” comments?
Let’s bust out that hate, white people!
Let’s not be so stupid as to not remember - “misremember”, you all would say, just like your hero Roger Roid Clemens - all the times you shit on black athletes for their indiscretions, talked all that smack about black athletes and projected that hate to all black people. You know there are black people out there like me who notice your proclivity for demonization of all things black when you get your hooks into black NFLers or black NBA ballers, or and MLBer like Milton Bradley. You know I’m watching and reading and listening, waiting with baited breath for you to begin to wonder if most white athletes are on drugs; waiting for your explanation of how white athletes’ environments makes them more apt to make wrong decisions.
Where is all the whining that if Miller and Jones had just valued the pursuit of higher education and all things American they would not be the thugs they are today? Where is all the talk about how you just knew something was wrong with them all the while and you were just waiting for the other shoe to drop; well, in Miller’s case, the third shoe?
I don’t see the emotional write on command-and-post columns from columnists excoriating these two. I don’t read how Miller is potentially ruining his team’s already fragile chances of making the playoffs next season by missing the first five games of the season; how if the Kings go 0-fer or 1-4 out of the gate because of his absence that those losses might be the ones that make Sacto miss the postseason by one or two games.
Where are they? This is Miller’s third offense! Third, folks. Third.
We’re talkin’ about third offense. Not one or two, but third - like, this, that, and the third.
Where’s that three strikes and you’re out, Brad Miller, talk?
I don’t see the same writings from those same columnists about how Jones and his sub-par play might have cost his Jacksonville team a shot at a Super Bowl berth and averring that his weak 2007 season was due to drug abuse. Where are all the whispers about Jones being drafted as a wideout instead of a quarterback? This guy ran a 4.34 40, led crappy Arkansas teams to bowl games, won games with both his arm and his legs - and was drafted as a, what?!
The white Michael Vick was made a wideout? You cannot be serious?!
Unlesss there was something wrong with Jones that we didn’t know because the, “His arm is weak” was and is pure b.s. The guy could throw, run, and he was a leader ———- except….
Maybe he was too much of a talent to pass up and was made a wideout because of his drug use in college. The Jags wouldn’t want a repeat of the travails of Jerry Jones with Quincy Carter in Dallas, would they?
What about it people? Let’s get off your asses and start hitting the boards with mean-spirited, closet - and overt - race talk!
Oh yeah, and meanwhile in J-ville, Jaguars defensive back Brian Williams was found not guilty of DUI in a misdemeanor drunk driving case dating back to 2006.
Just think of that one. Our hard-earned tax dollars go to misdemeanor cases that last two frigging years to adjudicate. Whooo hooo!
Anyway, Williams was pulled over in his Bentley just after leaving an establishment called “Club Paris” located in The Jacksonville Landing, a tony club and restaurant area on the north bank of the St. John’s River in J-ville. Now, I’m not in favor of athletes flaunting their dollars by purchasing flash like a Bentley, but having one means someone has ducats (that’s Latin dollar dollar coins).
So, Williams get pulled - of course - with a woman he met at Club Paris after maneuvering around a manhole. The po-po assumes he’s drunk and asks him to perform a field sobriety test. Three attempts into the test, after the policeman failed to even watch Williams, he arrests him and takes the Jaguars DB to jail.
During the trial it comes out that the policeman who pulled Williams tried to provoke him as soon as he saw a brother behind the wheel of a Bent-dog. The woman who testified to this is a Miami model, so there’s no, ’she’s a poor witness because she’s some common street garden tool,’ excuse:
“It was like he was pushing his button to make him angry. When that didn’t work, he [Bridges] got angrier,” said Kala Keen, 25. “The whole time, Brian was like, ‘Yes sir, no sir. I’ll take the test.’ “
Oops number one.
Later, the police in the station and a correctional officer attempted to paint Williams as both a drunk, belligerent, nigger, screaming his head off and a nice guy who cooperated completely:
Jurors also heard this morning from correctional officer Tina Cherry, who was the breath test operator on duty the night Williams was arrested. She testified she smelled a faint odor of alcohol but saw no other signs of impairment. Williams was polite, she said, even as he refused to submit to the test that measures the amount of alcohol in a person’s body.
Her portrayal contrasted with other officers’ descriptions of Williams as loud and profane. That’s not unusual, she said.
“A lot of times, if they’re upset with the police officer, they’ll come in and won’t be upset with the correctional officer,” Cherry testified. “Everyone’s different. Everyone’s going to show different signs of impairment.”
Sure.
Fortunately, the jury didn’t fall for the “tricks are for kids” treatment by the quote, authorities, unquote, and Williams was found not guilty.
But this has not stopped the San Diego Union-Tribune from including Williams in their “Arresting Image” “expose” where they crime blotted 308 “criminal” acts by NFL players. Oddly, they have, under the date 9.02.2006, noted that Williams was acquitted of his charge (the article and list appeared in the April 22, 2007 S.D. Union-Trib) only after he pleaded no contest to the charge of drunken driving.
Unless they had some inside info a over year before his trial, the information provided for Williams is erroneous, perhaps based on an incorrect report passed on by the Jacksonville police. But after all, somehow the authors of the article received something that told them that Williams both pleaded guilty to a charge and was acquitted of a charge. Now I’m not a lawyer, but that does smell of something putrid.
I have never heard, “Your honor, I plead no contest to the charges,” to which the judge says, “No worries, I’m acquitting you.”
After reading of Williams’ not guilty verdict, my first thought was to wonder if the San Diego paper would print a correction and remove Williams from their list.
My next thought was to read the comments under the article detailing Williams’ trial and verdict. I only had to look at the first comment to see how the fine folks of Jacksonville thought about the case:
It seems as if the race card is being played more & more in this case ? Granted the arresting officer is not right all the time, but he is sworn to uphold the law & tell it like it is. So, my wondering thoughts are what the colors are of all the[sic] participating players in this [sic] supposablely simple DWI case?
For the average working blue collar resident, black or white, they could not afford the time of money to contest a simple DUI & take it to court like this case.
From the arresting date till this trail date it has tooken up a lot of the court & peoples time ……..Things court wise need to change.
“Supposablely,” “tooken” – really now. Next comment:
That’s what I was thinking Luke.
I believe the arresting officer and if you remember something familiar happened with Jimmy Smith and the officer was right and was never apologized to. Too bad the officer couldn’t sue Smith.
Next comment:
he will get off. $ is all it takes to be above the law. This will be one of several instances with Jaguars that get out of trouble. Matt will get off too. Thats just how it goes…….now if I had 1 beer and got pulled over my life would never be the same. Doubt Brian is loosing any sleep over this.
Finally, after those three blasts from the white past, others popped up and put things into perspective; one person even mentioned Michael Vick and his dollars and where he is now.
Thank goodness for sanity.
But wait, folks I’m not finished with this white boy gone crazy day.
Teddy Dupay. Does the name sound familiar? University of Florida point guard on the 2000 NCAA Tournament runner-up Gators team? Now you remember.
Well, Ted (pictured left) was arrested and charged today with beating and raping a woman at a Utah ski resort.
Ouch!
According to the AP article:
Dupay acknowledged in court documents that he and the woman got “a little rough” but denied rape. The woman said she and Dupay had a two-year relationship, although it was not clear whether they were still a couple when police were called to a Deer Valley lodge June 19.
The 29-year-old Dupay was charged last week with felony rape, aggravated sexual assault and aggravated kidnapping. He is to be arraigned Monday in 3rd District Court.
Investigators say the woman had two fractured ribs, bruises on her arm, shoulder and thigh a swollen left eye and scratches on her back. The woman said Dupay kicked and punched her repeatedly before she was raped, according to court documents.
A little rough? sound more like an ass-kicking to me. And then there’s rape.
Remember Dupay? Remember he was a star. Remember he was dismissed from Florida after his junior season for asking a student to place bets for him?
Oh yeah, that guy.
Well, well. Will the commenting many give Teddy boy thee old heave ho? Will he lose his “white status” and now officially be perceived as an honorary black athlete for his, ummmm, transgressions?
Shooot, we don’t want him. In fact, we don’t want anything to do with any of this shit.
See, what today proves is that in this world gone mad that anyone and everyone, no matter their upbringing, no matter their college credentials, no matter their color, can screw up royally. There is no real reason to beat these guys up before we know the entire story…. well, with Jones things appear pretty cut and dried - or is that chopped and smoked. And Miller has already issued an apology. But with Dupay, who has been charged with the most serious charges of the three, we need to wait until we have more information before formulating opinions about what might or might not have happened in Utah.
And even with Jones and Miller, in some form or fashion they are self-medicating. What issues lie beneath their drug use is really more for psychologists to deal with than for us. For Jones, we need to hope the man is going to get his life together to take advantage of his immense physical talents. For Miller, maybe we need to heed all the medical evidence that marijuana has few if any deleterious effects on the human body and unless you really puff an extraordinary amount of weed all the time, you’ll be okay after a few hours, if not a few pounds heavier.
The only question is, can we look at black athletes the same way?
Can you?
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Jones is a bad football player, but I imagine you have to be a fairly serious junkie to doing lines in your car.
Miller…I just don’t get. The rule is simple: don’t smoke up. I may think it’s a dumb rule but I would personally like millions of dollars over pot. NBA players are an interesting bunch.
I don’t know who the last guy is, but based on his haircut alone, I think he is a rapist.
I read the same articles today. I glanced at the comments and had to laugh. This, my friend, is the psychopathic racial personality. This is absolutely the PRP in its purest form.
The PRP is a disease. It’s way, way down in the gray matter. You’ll need a scalpel. This cut was deep, though.
It might just be outrage fatigue, but I’ve never been able to work up much of any feeling towards stories of “athletes gone bad.” Unless it’s a low-grade level of annoyance at the grave and scolding tone of most of the stories. I guess it falls into the category of “other people’s business = other people’s business.”
It would be great to replace these stories with more real, honest to goodness sports stories. Personally, I’d like to hear more about baseball. But I’d take Curling highlights over another segment of lukewarm moralizing from the local sports anchor.
I’m with Scott on this — but the problem is that the disparity is so great between how white athletes’ visits on the police blotter are handled in comparison to black athletes that the point has be drilled by folks like D-Wil over and over again.
“innocent until proven guilty” needs to be in place for everyone here.
1. Matt Jones makes R. Jay Soward look like Jimmy Smith
2. In the NBA, the third drug offense only gets you gone for five games? Carmelo got gone for ten on a hit and run. Wow.
3. Teddy Dupay , according to the victim, kicked and punched her 150 times. Afterward, he asked police; ” How can you rape someone you love? “
Upon hearing the news, my co-worker said “Matt Jones doesn’t look like the kind of person that would get involved with that.” Was he expecting Matt to get “I do blow” tattoed on his forehead? Then, would’ve he have thought he was that kind of person? lol
Oh and D-Wil, I live about a half hour from Jax. The Landing is not tony. They want it to be tony. Definitely not tony:)
hmmm… they talked so much about Dupay and Jones on the Fox Sports station here yesterday that it wasn’t even really a sport’s show anymore. it turned into a forum where whiteys were calling in saying how far you have to fall before you’re stuck with cocaine in the back of a 4 runner cutting it with a credit card of all things. Almost making a joke of it…
There was a guy interviewed on the show who said that it’s a shame that out of all the players that do good, it’s the 2% of the guys who draw the headlines.
I hope they throw the book at Jones (in the NFL offices)… It’s a little excessive with the sarcasm, but then again even on the Fox Sports show they were referring to Matt as the “Great White Hope”. That was laughable considering he was a fringe prospect to begin with but…oh well
Teddy Dupay is a former athlete - I don’t know if he’ll get the sports media’s attention for long because he’s not been on the athetic radar screen for some time. But if the allegations are true, and they sound pretty accurate, I hope the jerk gets what’s coming to him. I read yesterday that one of the ballot questions here in Massachusetts this fall is whether or not to make marijuana a civil offense instead of a criminal one. And finally, in regards to Diallo’s observation about his co-worker - that is so American. Everybody says that! Just goes to show how easy it is to fool anybody…
“The only question is, can we look at black athletes the same way? Can you?”
THAT is the point, will always be the point, and the simply can not be let up on until there is institutional changes in how media reports stories and how stories are responded to by commenters. As annoying and tedious as it is, this disparity shit needs to be pointed out at every turn until these writers correct themselves.
Last week Derrick rose got his very first traffic ticket and three separate ESPN afternoon shows covered the shit and started moralizing about what it means about Derrick Rose… Rose was immediately compared by commenters to a whole slew of perceived rich spoiled athletes — all of them black of course. A fucking TRAFFIC TICKET! The shit has gotten so out of hand, that we need as many articles like this one to call out the bullshit…
It is not Deadspin is going to do it…
Sometimes, I wonder. Even if you do keep reporting stories like this in this way, will the commenters or the MSM ever change. A lot of them will never see their own ignorance. It’s always different if a black athlete gets charged than if a white athlete gets charged. The venom spit at a black athlete is far greater than the white ones. The even worse part is that you’ll get some people who try to explain away the white athlete’s transgressions:
Brad Miller was probably just using the ganja for medicinal purposes, after all he is in California. That stuff wasn’t Matt Jones’. He was trying to keep it away from the other people with him in the car. We should all just let the facts come out in the Dupay case. The girl probably just liked it rough. Remember Duke lacrosse!
This goes beyond just athletics and into every day life. Eve Carson from UNC gets killed, national news. A 21 year old black junior from NC Central University gets killed, and her body is dumped off I-540 in Wake County. It was pretty much a local story even in NC. If you didn’t patrol the news sites, you never heard about it.
I watched PTI yesterday with LeBatard and I think his name was Shannesay or something. They talked about Josh Hamilton’s redemption. LeBatard brought up that if it was a black man, they wouldn’t be giving him the same pass. Shannesay was livid that LeBatard would even bring race up and told him he was wrong. LeBatard said that it should be part of the conversation. Shannesay brought up in a later segment that it was wrong for LeBatard to even bring it up.
Kos,
Was it Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe, by any chance?
mark -
yeah, that was the guy.
I think that as of July 11, 2008, the American public just kind of hates pro athletes in general. We like sports, but we don’t like athletes. Which is an interesting place to be as a society.
Does White America hate black athletes more than it hates white athletes? Probably. But I think the underlying issue with fandom these days is hate.
At the moment, I think I truly like five athletes and four of them are Steelers. I pretty much hate everyone else, including Brett Favre and his entire extended family of dead and dying people.
I don’t think this is healthy.
Good work Dwil as always. Myron you may hate the players but I hate the fans and the MSM.
I mean I really do hate them. Sports would be so much more entertaining without the fans and media.
I wish games could just have no fans at the stadiums and just have fake noise pumped in.
I don’t hate athletes. I don’t even know most of them, so why would I hate them? They just play games for money.
Thanks for staying vigilant on this crap Dwil. I know it gets tiring, it gets tiring for me on my blog, but we have to keep saying this shit so folks can never use the excuse that “nobody said anything” when the shit really hits the fan.
Keep punching them upside their heads.
Hmmm. Hines Ward, Willie Parker, Troy Polamalu and James Farrior?
Kos:
I think you are quite correct in asserting that this issue is not on its way out. It took centuries to create this idea of separate moral worth based on phenotype — and not a consistent definition of phenotype, but one that changes like the wind.
The psychopathic racial personality will admit no moral weakness among the “In-Group.” You would be hard-pressed to find comments on ESPN and other sports web sites assailing the morality of Jones, Dupay (IUPG), Jared Allen, Chris Benoit by those who suffer from the PRP. They make jokes. They say these guy were stupid (basically - they were stupid to get caught). They say it’s not a big deal because of the talent of the person. There are no critiques whatsoever of their ESSENTIAL HUMANITY. That’s the difference.
Another common side effect of the PRP is fatigue. Rob Neyer came down with a wicked case of PRP fatigue when Rick Ankiel went from Savior to Confessor. He said, “I just can’t get worked up over this.” That’s the same cat who could muster up the inhuman strength to go buck wild on Barry Lamar. Fatigue is widespread and cultural. That’s why the sheer number of comments is so much greater in cases involving Black athletes. Those Comment Boards are feeding frenzies for PRP’s with insatiable appetites - until another “Great White Shark” is on the menu — then everyone wants a pillow.
Zzzzz.
Modi:
I agree that these articles need to be written. Gotta call folks on their bullshit regardless of whether or not they can change. At least you can hope to stem the infection rate.
Bravo Dwil….well done. By the way, Steve Foley settled with the city of Coronado, CA over his lawsuit…after the po-po shot him up and ended his career…if it wasn’t for the Two Live Stews talking about it, wouldn’t have ever known, seeing as I didn’t see it at all on any sports show.
I’m on the outs with Polamalu at the moment. His weird earthy workouts have me concerned. I still like Roethlisberger even though he is quite possibly just a fat rummy who happens to be good at football.
Oddly enough, my fifth athlete is and always has been Randy Moss. He could be shooting a gun at a pregnant parking attendant as he runs her over while doing crack and I would be like, “Well…he had a tough upbringing….”
Miranda, here is the irony. The Steve Foley case was settled on the VERY SAME DAY that Derrick Rose traffic ticket was making big news. ESPN had the AP article but did not cover it in any of their shows. I planned to write about it the next day, but been overwhelmed lately with real life.
kos, the whole history of change has always happened because enough people demanded it. Before enough people demand it, there are a few people that demand it. That has always been the change process, not matter what the issue. There are very specific institutional changes that ESPN and others can make to limit this problem. Of course, no one is so naive to think that a few articles will eradicate media racism, but as Temple perfectly put it, we must stem the “infection rate”.
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” — Gandhi
Big Man said -
“I don’t hate athletes. I don’t even know most of them, so why would I hate them? They just play games for money.”
I think this gets to the heart of the “recreational condemnation” issue for me. I don’t know these guys, so I can’t get worked up about their foibles.
This is an excellent article. The mistakes of people I don’t know may not upset me, but the media visits my house every day. Gossipy dreck like traffic ticket updates are enough to make me change the channel. Travesties like the treatment of Brian Williams get an angry letter to the editor. But it feels like no one’s listening. My TV (and my computer, my radio, and my newspaper) are like bad guests who can’t follow the rules of the house. Even when I ask them to behave, they keep tossing garbage all over my living room.
Are you saying that in “Law and Order” Goodell’s NFL, Jones is only going to get 5 games? Wow.
Thanks again Dwil for sounding the off on this type of nonsense. I can’t stand the disparity in the coverage of athletes doing “bad”.
Another thing is that they refuse to even recognize the different reatlity for black people and even more specifically black males in this country. Seems like we get it from both sides. Even worse, if you are successful. Worse still if you are young and successful. If you want to hang out at a popular night club, because hell, a lot of young folks like to do that, you gotta deal with the haters at the club who are most likely black. (think about If you choose to start knuckin’ than you are a punk who should not have been out in the first place. If you leave, you gotta deal with the cops hanging around the club waiting for a black man driving a Bently so he can pull him over. When, not if, but when you get stopped you gotta hope you are not dealing with some racists asshole or some spook. If you are you, gotta deal with your name being drug through the mud about how you were a wild eyed savage who fought the cops all the way. Doesn’t matter if you go along to get along or protest the treatment, it’s all the same to those who report this bs. Hell as Sean Taylor demonstrated you can’t even be killed while heroically protecting your family and not get talked about like a dog.
Miranda-
I have an entire favorites folder on the Foley incident (from which that SD Union-Trib Arresting Images thing came) and saw the settlement article from a few days ago.
The entire tone of the reporting of the case made me ill and I’ve been taking notes as it has gone along. At some point here I’ll coalesce all this with new thoughts and post a long piece on it because it’s such a perfect example of how reporting is affected by their on-going relationship with police. Nearly every article appeared like it went through police eyes before published, though they were actually just perused by an editor who constantly kept it in mind that anything truly critical about the department or the policeman in question would not only sacrifice that relationship but probably land him and the reporters in peril with the police. The only articles that were critical or could be viewed that way were always countered with an article that served to temper it later.
Crazy…..
T3-
The separate morality, well, pervasive morality, is one that was constructed with the disseminating the idea of the “ideal man.” It was and is puirposely lofty so that no one can reach its standards, not even those who created and say they live by it (obviously). Because of its unreachable-ness it must be able to be manipulated so that: one race can constantly project the image that they generally live by its standards while simultaneously keeping all others from attaining “true morality.”
And almost everything we see is made to further that ephemeral notion of some ideal morality; remind those who cannot be “in” that they never will be “in.”… the “fatigue” you describe is part of that ruse. It is another signal sent by that ideal morality machine through the media to the unthinking to tell them how to react to a given topic. A black “villain,” either preexisting or newly-created, will always rise quickly after the fatigue is expressed to keep that fatigue from becoming outright depression.
Big Man, Myron-
I understand white hate for athletes, but it is misguided. The things that T3 described are archetypal cues meant to keep white people from taking out their pissed off-ness on the power structure. So who’s next? The athletes who “make so much money” when they don’t make shit compared with the owners.
The owners are stealing your dollars to produce what you see on the field and courts. Their structure forces athletes to react by “cheating” with PEDs; athletics, in general, takes a certain mindset to succeed.
That only 2.2% of NFL players have run-ins with the law is an amazing figure. It shows how well the structure knows how to pick its participants, those who are inclined to submit to perceived authority and subvert themselves and “play the game” in order to survive, if not succeed. That 2.2% is so vilified, in large part, because it is their actions that mimic the lawlessness of the power structure that creates the system in which these athletes work…..
And that is why sports is a mirror of society - just transpose what I just wrote to society - and there you go….
So, Big Man’s hate of fans is at least, I think, that stubborn refusal of the “fan” to examine him or her self in relation to all this - which manifests itself in that desired knee-jerk reaction which is: Barry Bonds has too much baggage to play on an MLB team and, remember, he must play in the field for any of the teams that need him! And fans say, “YEAH!!!! That’s right! And further, Bonds brought this all on himself!” (Well, if the “fan” thought about how fallacious those “cue statements” are, the entire baseball-watching nation would be demanding the owners’ heads - and those in the media who perpetuate that lie - on platters.)
Oh, generally speaking, I hate owners more than I hate players. What it ultimately comes down to is that I hate myself for spending so much time caring about people who ultimately don’t reciprocate. I think sports fandom has turned into some kind of large quasi-homosexual psycho-drama. Why doesn’t Alan Faneca love me the way I love him? I hate that fat bastard.
awb
Brad Miller is getting 5 games, Matt Jones’ suspension has not yet been levied
Great post, D-Wil. Again, this is exactly the type of article we need more of, to combat all the one-sided ish from the MSM. Keep pounding the pavement, D.
And T3’s comment is 100% on the mark. Where to diagnose The Sickness, T3. For a long time we’ve called it “The Sickness” when having these kinds of discussions with my friends. Now it’s nice to see it actually diagnosed… PRP. Well done.
PFFTT!! GUFFAWWW!!! Ha-ha-ha….
LMAO!!
Thanks, Dwil.
“that ephemeral notion of some ideal morality”
Oh, that’s just lovely wordsmithing. I can almost taste it.
SML:
That wasn’t my diagnosis. That honor belongs to the late Dr. Bobby Wright of Chicago. If you can find that little red book with the same title, pick it up.
…and guess what… Tony Zendejas charged with drugging a customer and rape - from January; Travis Henry tests positive for pot - again and will likely be suspended for a year When was the test and how long has the NFL had the results?… Ahhh, here we go:
A highly-placed NFL source told FOX 31’s Josina Anderson that Henry tested positive for marijuana in May 2008, indicating the Broncos likely knew about the failed drug test prior releasing him
Zendejas:
Former Los Angeles Rams kicker Tony Zendejas was arrested early Thursday on charges of drugging and raping a female customer of his San Dimas sports bar in January.
The Los Angeles County district attorney’s office said the 48-year-old Zendejas was arrested on felony warrants at his Yorba Linda home.
Deputy District Attorney Rouman Ebrahim said Zendejas was charged with one count each of rape by use of drugs, rape of an unconscious person, sodomy by anesthesia or controlled substance and sodomy of an unconscious victim.
Prosecutors alleged that on Jan. 26, Zendejas gave the customer a drink that made her groggy. The patron told authorities she woke up in a nearby motel room and alleged she had been raped.
Zendejas was later released from custody, said his attorney, Timothy Younger. Arraignment was scheduled for Friday at the Pomona courthouse.
“Mr. Zendejas was shocked and surprised upon being advised of the allegations against him,” Younger said. “He is anxious to begin immediately to defend his good name and he is very grateful and appreciative of the support he has already received from family and friends who know these allegations are simply slanderous.”
Zendejas was held in lieu of $260,000 bail, with arraignment scheduled for Friday at the Pomona courthouse.
Henry:
“Henry’s most recent result came before the Broncos released him,” the source said.
May? And that’s probably why ther Broncos released him - and nothing was reported until —————- today?
Okay. I’m Sam Sausage-head
Yummy response.
And I always thought that marijuana lowered your sperm count. (Oh no…it’s a Deadspin-esque comment. Flee!)
Where is that 2 percent figure coming from by the way? Any kind of “percentage of NFL players” number can be heavily skewed depending on how the league counts players (53-man roster, practice squad, camp cuts, etc). That number could be correct, but it seems like the Bengals alone would skew it higher (I think at one point, they had 14 players with a record).
Dwil
Like Temple3 I enjoyed your phrase about morality. So nice I had to read it twice.
Why or why did I just look at the comments on ESPN over Farve’s latest…..my bad
Didn’t Ocho Cinco get bashed to high heaven for wanting to be released??
The “reserved analysis” of Brett Farve’s selfishness is just pathetic….sorry, but I need to hear him being called all kinds of spoiled, arrogant, egotistical whatevers in order to feel some parity with the situations. Guess that won’t be happening
I actually think the public is split pretty evenly on Brett Favre considering the hagiographic coverage he receives. I for one think he is a dick.
TO ALL-
THERE IS AN IMPORTANT UPDATE ON JONES….
Myron-
2.2% is the percentage of NFL players who have has run-ins w/ the police. I’ve written about, it’s been written about nationally. You might be late to it as a fact but do not act as if it is not a figure I pulled out of my ass.
Big Man, T3 -
Thanks…
Miranda -
John Madden had to change his pants after he heard the news about Brett Favre.
You gotta be s–ttin’ me, right? I mean, six grams and you can somehow determine that Matt Jones did not have the intent to sell?
This is just the old “white dudes with cocaine are less dangerous than black dudes with crack” mindset that’s affected drug policy since the 80s (and obviously has roots going further back.) Damn, this is ridiculous.
kos - so did Peter King.
Will someone please rid me of this meddlesome quarterback? I am all for players doing what they feel is best for themselves and their families, but Brett Favre has beens tringing along hte Packer organization for years and this is just the latest straw.
Great piece Dwil, but this
“The only question is, can we look at black athletes the same way?
Can you?”
Shit man, ain’t no thang but a chicken wang Bruh. It ain’t gone faze these fools one bit. They have a vested interest in hatred, from the owners to the MSM to the fools who watch MMA instead of boxing to kissasses like Whitlock and Wilbon. They aint gone change.
I am so done with Brett Favre.
Teddy Dupay and Matt Jones? As we say in the black community, “Dayum, shorty! The FUCK?!?!?”
@ Signal to Noise: this not only smells like the crack/powdered cocaine disparity, it walks and talks like it, too. I’m glad some of the bitch-ass faction of white guys on comments sections are going to have to eat a little crow. And since we’re having fun at their expense for a change, let’s not forget Jim Leyritz behind the wheel as a menace to society…..
@MODI: Are we sure that Rose’s speeding/reckless driving ticket didn’t occur even before the draft?
@Dwil: Could you post the link on the 2.2% figure, please? Thanks. I haven’t read that one yet, but I’ve heard it alluded to.
kos,
Madden didn’t just mess up his pants….but probably everybody within a 25 foot radius of him got a bit of the spray too.
Dwil,
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE &@#(!$ KIDDIN ME! He is not being charged with distribution because the prosecutor says “oh, well he wasn’t gonna deal it”…what the hell EVER! Do you know how many people are sitting in prison right now simply because they had more than the threshold for personal use?? Oh hell no, this is some bullshyt.
Phil Deeze,
I remember reading this and found it, the last paragraph is the statistics (which incidentally, the NFL athletes are much more well behaved than the rest of the general population):
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/20080419-9999-1s19crime1.html
This paper also keeps a running tally of arrests or “incidents” so to speak:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html
Miranda-
Thanks for shooting Phil that first link (the second one is in my article, too)…..
Now on to Matt J….. THAT IS SOME SHIT! I could not believe it when I read it. I have NEVER, EVER - and yes, I’m yelling - heard ANY shit like that! How the fuck could, at the time wel-off asss Davon Boddie get a distribution case and not Matt Jones.
The threshold is ONE GRAM! Dude had SIX! Like I wrote, sure he prolly wasn’t distributing, but under the circumstances, who is the prosecutor to judge without first charging him according to the law?!
Fucking unbelievable…. So now the drug laws all of a sudden got discretionary BEFORE the sentencing phase ———— RIGHT?!
Jeepers creepers. I was just asking for a source. Sorry.
The only thing I have found so far is an article from Chance Magazine in 1999 showing the crime rate in the NFL to be 22 percent.
Myron-
Sorry man I’ve been battling over at National Sport Review over my Nadal article and got carried away - shit is crazy over there….. I think Miranda’s first link should do it for you.
If not, do a site search here. Though I still don’t have archives from before January of 2008 on the site, whatever articles I first mentioned this percentage inb might have been written after the 1st of the year.
Thanks for the link on the statistics, guys. I think what we have here is a case of spotlighting. Since the media never actually points out what the NFL’s actual crime rate is, the fact that every misstep is on the news makes every crime (no matter how insignificant) a media event. For private citizens, there are THOUSANDS of crimes that don’t even make the local newspaper. At a rate of 1 offense/crime for every 21 Americans, the daily paper might need to be on a CD-ROM to keep up. 1offense/arrest for every 47 football players will not have me worrying if Tom Brady or Ray Lewis is going to boost my Range Rover.
The Davon Boddie/Matt Jones lack of consistency ABSOLUTELY bothers me. Are we to believe that four grams of marijauna is more dangerous than six grams of cocaine? Un-fucking-believable. And a $2500 bail for Jones? Ridiculous.
Is it just me or does Teddy Dupay’s picture look like a young Don Johnson? I’m going to have to go youtube his pop music foray called “Heartbeat” where he looks like he’s going to stroke out trying to hit the high notes.
Open message to Ted Dupay: You supposed to LOVE the pooty, man. Be nice to the pooty. Don’t beat up the pooty. Didn’t your daddy ever teach you nothin? Go listen to some Marvin Gaye and Tami Terrell and be nicer to the booty next time, man. D@mn!
Phil-
Boddie was 4 ounces… but still. He had money just like Jones and he got the distribution tag (with one ounce being the possession threshold). Jones had 6 grams of coke with one gram being the possession threshold. Boddie = threshold X 4… Jones = threshold X 6…. hmmmm.
Teddy Dupay needed to be arrested for that haircut alone
Dwil,
Ounces, grams, etc. My bad. I think someone needs to start a little letter-writing campaign to this DA that’s trying to cut Jones a break. Screw that. If Jones was ridin’ dirty, he needs to get his “Longest Yard” on and kick it up in the penitentiary.
@ Spaceghost: that hair cut looks like Dom Deluise as Melvin P. Thorpe in “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.”
Phil, yes Rose’s speeding ticket occurred a month before the draft and the Bulls and everybody else already knew about it. I think the media found out after he was picked and decided that it was news.
The Jones/Boddie distinction is ridiculous
Odd - a Google search about Florida and one gram finds me terms about intent to distribute, not just the word “deal”.
Since Matt Jones was with two people and had six grams, I’d say giving them constitutes the definition of distribution. I thought the purpose of setting limits was to eliminate such judgment calls.
Also, holy hell on the description of Zendejas. How is it that Henry’s article is still the #1 newslink on tWWL NFL page, while that one is gone?
T3–Wright, Chicago, got it. I was guessing Fanon. (Well, I say “got it”, I mean “will get it”.)
Superb work here, in the article–too good to call a “post”–and in the comments both.
As I said earlier in another comment, I just found this site (via Cosellout) this afternoon, and I’m impressed. By now, though, I’m also depressed. Lemme see if I can tease out why.
For the record, I’m a white guy. Middle class culturally, lower-middle-class financially, punk tendencies. (Uhm…punk rock, maybe I should specify…) Left coast the last decade, 20-odd years in the midwest earlier.
I don’t care about soft drugs, so the Miller thing didn’t really register with me. I dislike white powders in our society, so I hoped Jones would get shafted (though, since it was powder, and not rock, we know what’ll go down*) and did register shock that 6 grams doesn’t get a guy intent to distribute.
Why I’m depressed is that I didn’t take the next step and start wondering where the condemnations were gonna come from. Why I’m depressed is it took Dwil to point out to me that not wondering this was due to my racism, my failure to consider race. Damnit. More work to do on the cop that lives in my head, obviously.
Anyway, thanks, Dwil–I don’t like being forced to confront my own ignorance, my own failings, but it’s gotta happen or I won’t get anywhere.
Great work.
*I can’t resist: what’ll go down…is his sentence! Ba-zing!
What about the completely insane War on Drugs? If we had a sane and responsible outlook on drug use –recreational or otherwise– many of these situations wouldn’t even happen.
Instead, we demonize, moralize, and condemn the people who get caught doing what many of us –arguably, most of us– do all the time.
Here’s a different take:
If cops spent their time solving real crimes –robbery, violent attacks, murder, or, God forbid, the fleecing at the gas pumps being perpetrated by our President’s pals– instead of wasting time busting people for getting high; there’s be a completely different conversation about all of this.
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